Teri Holland (00:01.847)
Hi, Mary Sol, welcome to the show.
Marisol Colette (00:04.174)
Hi, thanks for having me, Terry.
Teri Holland (00:06.303)
Yeah, I have to say I'm really excited about this interview because this is a topic I've been so curious about and I just didn't have a person who could come and talk about it. So I'm really glad that we connected and now here you are. This is perfect. Yeah. So I want to start with the question that most people listening are probably going to be wondering and that is what is a fashion therapist?
Marisol Colette (00:20.13)
Yeah. Yeah. Awesome.
Marisol Colette (00:28.974)
So I am a licensed clinical social worker. So I have my master's in social work. And also I grew up with a bunch of artists. I am an artist myself. I always have had great, great sense of fashion. And years ago, was probably 2013, I used to do, I used to go into people's closets, like a closet edit for fun and for free. And I had a girlfriend say very explicitly to me, she said,
This is so much more than just what to wear or what not to wear. This is truly transformative. And that made sense to me as a therapist that there would be something deeper there. I would typically ask the questions that I would ask in therapy, which is like, how does this make you feel? And talk to me more if somebody says something about themselves, some story or narrative, like, let's talk about that. So that's essentially what I've done.
is I've married my, I think it's, I'm going on 20, 22 years, 20 years of being a therapist with my expertise in fashion and personal styling. So, yeah.
Teri Holland (01:38.583)
Come on.
Teri Holland (01:44.439)
And how did you come to bring those two together? Like how, what was that moment for you where you said, I can merge these two worlds of mine and create this thing. How did that come about?
Marisol Colette (01:55.31)
Yeah, I have always felt so fortunate to be able to be paid to support people. So to walk with people in their healing journeys, that's something that is so kind of inherent or ambient to my being. And I worked as a social worker at the VA hospital for about 10 years, and the creativity component just wasn't there. I mean, that's like the most obvious place for me to not.
Teri Holland (02:23.477)
Right.
Marisol Colette (02:25.322)
have creativity. And I couldn't live without it. Like I sang on the side, I went to art school, like all of these things that were also a big part of my life I didn't have. And so when that girlfriend said that to me, I thought, okay, here we go. I'm gonna and somehow I was born with an immense amount of self-confidence, regardless of failures in my life. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna make up this job. And it's been this is my October was my 10 years.
Teri Holland (02:33.399)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (02:45.929)
Nice.
Teri Holland (02:55.659)
Amazing. And when you started, did people jump on board with you right away or was it difficult to get people to understand what it is that you were doing? How did it work growing this into a business?
Marisol Colette (03:09.902)
It was, it both made sense from the perspective of people were like, yeah, it's super emotional getting dressed or I really stress out when I'm shopping or I wear the same thing every day but I don't really feel good in it. So that made sense. And, you know, as we build a business and especially one where you're paving a new path, it's, you know, my elevator pitch when I was trying to explain it to people, I'm like, you know, it obviously, you know, it was just like.
Teri Holland (03:18.347)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (03:39.456)
Hahaha
Marisol Colette (03:39.746)
Yeah, obviously. So I had to work on that part of it. And I think that piece of it was more about how do I offer this to folks? Like, what is it? How do I explain what the offering is? And I find that even though the term fashion therapist or a personal stylist who also has a degree as a therapist makes sense to people, I also find that the thing that I hear every time is when I'm
when I'm in the middle of working with somebody or done working with them, they're like, this is more than I ever expected. This is like a whole new me, a transformation that I didn't know was possible through this lens. And the last thing I'll say is for me, because fashion and personal styling and all of the, and color and expression of self comes so natural to me,
Teri Holland (04:14.422)
Mm.
Marisol Colette (04:35.148)
I make it really fun. So I basically flipped social work that can sometimes be cathartic or heavy and I flipped it on its head and said, let's go in through this portal of, let's be girlfriends or let's just have a good time and play dress up.
Teri Holland (04:48.503)
Cool. And what would a session look like with you? If someone comes to work with you, what does it look like and what can they expect in the process?
Marisol Colette (04:58.402)
Yeah, great question. So I know that you work with a lot of entrepreneurs and people who are also paving their own path. And so I have a couple of things that I would say to that. One is I do a lot of branding and marketing work with folks from the perspective of how do they show up for their business in a way that is consistent, recognizable, and very in alignment with their business and their brand.
Teri Holland (05:04.501)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (05:24.384)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (05:24.494)
I'm noticing the way that you've organized your books behind you. I notice your pink lipstick and your cool glasses. It's like little things that we see that help me to get to know you better because we don't know each other very well. And so what is it about Terry that I can see just at face value and how you show up consistently on social media?
Teri Holland (05:28.035)
Hahaha
Teri Holland (05:38.87)
Right.
Marisol Colette (05:49.23)
the consistency of it from a marketing perspective, of course, but also just the sense of like, yeah, this person is consistent. This person shows up and shows up as themselves. And there's a very clear, yeah, there's a very clear feeling of what it is like for the person on the other end who's receiving information or looking to hire you is like, can I trust this person? What do I see when I see them and the confidence? So.
Teri Holland (06:00.406)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (06:16.396)
When I, the branding and marketing with entrepreneurs a lot of times that's actually through photo shoots. So I'll dress folks for photo shoots, business photo shoots in a way that really encompasses all of themselves in their business, all of their heart centered values and goals for their business. And that is a super fun thing. And then, so what that means is we meet, we talk. I have a extensive questionnaire. Who are you? Who are you becoming?
Teri Holland (06:36.246)
Okay.
Teri Holland (06:45.257)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (06:45.614)
What do you stand for? How do you want to show up? And then I usually do people's colors as well in the process. I call them color allies. then, yeah, does that fit? Yeah. A lot of people know about seasonal color analysis, which is like what colors. This is that except for through the psychology lens of
Teri Holland (06:55.723)
Yeah, tell me more about that. That sounds intriguing.
Teri Holland (07:06.998)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (07:13.644)
Color ally being A, there are no rules, but there are colors that enhance your natural beauty, all genders, natural beauty, but your inherent beauty. And also how then can we use those in particular settings? So when I'm on a podcast or when I'm doing a speaking engagement or when I'm on a sales call or meeting with a friend on a Saturday morning,
what those colors evoke for us and how we can use them to our benefit. The other thing I'll say about the session, so it always involves like a real in-depth conversation about to really start to define and refine that how we want to express our insides on the outside. And then I do very tactical things like I go through people's closets.
Teri Holland (07:47.244)
Hey.
Marisol Colette (08:08.14)
I work with people all over the world. So I do that virtually through Zoom, which set it up and have a closet session. And then I travel to some clients and then anybody who's local, I go to their house. We go through their closet. We edit out what no longer serves them. I remake looks with pieces that they have. So it's a refresh of all that they already have. And then we look for gaps and then we shop online or in person.
Teri Holland (08:12.865)
Wow.
Teri Holland (08:30.113)
Nice.
Marisol Colette (08:37.654)
and we reinvent the wardrobe.
Teri Holland (08:37.879)
That sounds like so much fun.
Marisol Colette (08:42.831)
It is so much fun.
Teri Holland (08:45.503)
Yeah, I bet. bet. How does personal style impact an entrepreneur's confidence, would you say? Like when they're walking into a room, how does that impact them?
Marisol Colette (08:55.842)
Yeah, I mean, imagine standing on stage and your pants are too tight or too loose and they don't really feel great or like the fit is off. And one of the things that I always say is you have better things to do than worry about what to wear. mean, if you're gonna be in a place where you're trying to make an impact or you're trying to say something really,
Teri Holland (09:03.766)
Hmm
Marisol Colette (09:22.518)
important or you've been invited to say something and speak or, you know, even showing up on Zoom, which we can talk about later since a lot of this, since a lot of our work is virtual in general. But like, how does it feel to feel really good in your body? And like, I know that I look great. It takes that entire distraction out of like, how do I look? How do I feel? Not to mention the amount of time wasted.
Teri Holland (09:27.02)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (09:32.683)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (09:44.629)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (09:48.718)
in the beginning of the day, trying to figure out what to wear. It's like, I take that burden away so that people can spend 100 % of their time focused on what they are here to do.
Teri Holland (10:01.083)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned that because I always hear about people like Barack Obama who had the same suit, like 20 of them or something like that, and the same shirt, the same tie, so that he didn't have to decide what to wear. It was just a uniform. Or Steve Jobs, who wore the same turtleneck jeans, running shoes every day, so that he didn't have to think about it. And I think sometimes that seems really...
Marisol Colette (10:15.746)
Yes.
Teri Holland (10:27.955)
appealing to just have a uniform that you could just put on. You know it looks good, you know you feel good in it, but I also think that could be kind of restrictive if you're only wearing the same thing every day. So how do you create a wardrobe with your clients where they don't have that burden of thinking about what to wear but they have sort of like a standard look and feel to it without getting bored?
Marisol Colette (10:54.606)
Sure. A lot of it is color. It has to do with color so that, you know, it's easy to mix and match. So I have clients who are maximalists who don't mind to have like an array of things in their closet, just a ton of options. That's really easy for them. It's not stressful. I do, however, so I have a virtual platform, which is a digital closet. So I make looks. So I have one client who literally opens her app
Teri Holland (11:17.683)
Marisol Colette (11:24.588)
in the morning, puts on the outfit, day two she opens the app, puts on the next outfit. Like she does not have time, energy, or even like it just doesn't come natural for her to figure out what to wear. So she just opens the app, puts on the outfit, goes. And so that's one way to navigate that if they have a lot of stuff in their closet. The other is just like really honing in on color. So, you know, what colors are gonna best suit you and then having everything go together that way can be really easy. And then
Teri Holland (11:36.085)
Okay.
Marisol Colette (11:54.658)
You know, what you were talking about this, I don't know if you said the word stagnant or restrictive. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, if you're gonna go on a Saturday morning and you're gonna go do a thing and then you're gonna go to a networking event on Sunday evening and then you're gonna work from home on Monday, like it is true that those three things don't have, you don't have the need to wear the same thing, right? And so what does it feel like?
Teri Holland (12:00.676)
yeah, yeah, restrictive.
Teri Holland (12:20.375)
Right.
Marisol Colette (12:24.76)
Like I just packed for somebody who was going to Vegas for a conference. And she was like, I can wear this outfit from the conference to dinner. And, you know, of course, of course she can. And we did make it so that she could just change her shoes and jacket and go. And also, you know, I invited her, I was like, well, let's think about this. Like, how do you want to let go of the conference day and turn it into like the feeling of...
you know, being relaxed after a long day and going to a really nice dinner. you know, but everything goes together. So if she lost her phone, her app, her computer, everything, she would know exactly what to wear because everything in her closet at this point goes together and it all speaks to her personality. All of it.
Teri Holland (12:53.526)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (13:05.823)
Nice. Nice. I love that. That sounds so amazing. It reminds me of when you're talking about like, letting go of the conference and moving into sort of the evening and stuff. It reminded me of like back in the COVID times when everyone was working from home and talking about working in their pajamas and only being like really dressed from like the waist up because they're showing up on camera, but underneath they'd have their sweatpants or their pajama pants on.
And I was telling all my clients, no, you get dressed. Like you dress from like completely dressed. Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Because it does change how you feel and how you show up and how you like, if I had sweatpants on underneath this, I wouldn't have the same energy or the same. you know what I mean? I, course, you know what I mean? Yeah. So that's, it's cool to hear that. I, yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thanks.
Marisol Colette (13:37.89)
you get dressed.
H to T, H to T, that does so.
Marisol Colette (13:54.082)
Yeah, exactly.
Marisol Colette (13:59.17)
Yeah, I mean, you've got it. That's it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally.
Teri Holland (14:05.074)
I do have to say I was kind of like, what do I wear for this interview? And then like, I'm gonna wear what I would wear for any other interview. But I did have that moment of like, what do I wear for Marisol? Like, this is what she does.
Marisol Colette (14:11.982)
That's right.
Marisol Colette (14:16.224)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's I, lot of people say that it's a double-sided coin. Is that two-sided? Yeah. But it's both. Yeah. So one thing that I say about that is, again, like, please don't stress out about that. That's what I tell people because, you know, I also really enjoy dressing like a 12-year-old kid, you know, overalls and
Teri Holland (14:28.183)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.
Teri Holland (14:37.751)
Hmm.
Teri Holland (14:44.608)
Nice.
Marisol Colette (14:45.166)
goofy shoes and layers of whatever just because sometimes it feels really fun and freeing to do that. And then I also dress like a 41 year old woman that has a family and a successful business and a kiddo, you know, so all of that. So, you know, at any point, as long as you feel really good in what you wear, that's what I'm going to end up seeing anyways, is that felt sense of confidence and assuredness and authenticity.
Teri Holland (14:51.595)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (15:07.435)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (15:14.036)
On the other hand, when people say that they stress out about what to wear, or even just think about what to wear around me, I think that that is a little bit of a gift of the stress of it or the concern of it is that person having to pause and ask themselves not what I would like, but what is gonna actually make them feel great. people will say things like, I don't know, I don't wanna show up to this party and stand out.
Teri Holland (15:14.337)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (15:37.803)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (15:44.726)
And all that ends up happening, maybe there are a couple people who feel insecure, which I hope that they find support and love around that, but is that they inspire other people. you can wear that? what if I wore the thing that I really wanted to wear? I was afraid to wear the red dress, so I wore the black one. And, you know, it's fun. It's fun. It's inspiring too.
Teri Holland (15:56.641)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (16:00.663)
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's, you know, I think it's so empowering too, to just like take those bold chances and put on the thing that you really want to wear. I had a reminded of a speaking event I did a couple weeks ago where like two weeks before it, I was thinking about, okay, what am going to wear? How do I want to represent myself at this event? And I got this idea that I was like, I want a red suit. I want a bold red suit.
And so I started looking online, I found one, I got it in time to get it tailored, like literally like just in time to be able to get it tailored. And I have never had so many compliments on something I've worn on stage that everyone was like, where did you get that suit? That's fantastic. The photographer was like, this is photographing so well on you. You should do a photo shoot in this suit. And I was like,
Marisol Colette (16:45.772)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (16:56.662)
I get tingle-ometer, get chills.
Teri Holland (16:58.851)
good, good. But I was like, OK. And I've never in my life worn red. I just in a moment was like, I want something red. And so then I went and got a red sweater because I'm like, I want that feeling again. And so I got a red sweater that I wore to another networking event. And people were like, that red on you is amazing. You should wear lots of red. And I'm like, I should wear lots of red. Why not? And so it's like, don't rob yourself of that feeling, I guess, is what I'm saying. You can walk into the room and have that feeling of.
Marisol Colette (17:08.75)
Mmm. Yeah. Mmm.
Marisol Colette (17:25.293)
Mmm.
Teri Holland (17:29.623)
Just, yeah, being amazing. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (17:32.502)
You talk a lot about imposter syndrome on this podcast. You talk a lot about being bold, rewiring your brain, all of those things. What I just heard you say is I had a thought, I had an inspired thought. Never worn red before is amazing, because you know you're a true winter, right? Yes. Yeah.
Teri Holland (17:35.329)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (17:49.921)
Yep.
Teri Holland (17:54.355)
Am I? I've always wondered. I knew it was a winter something, but I didn't know which one. a true winter.
Marisol Colette (17:59.374)
There's three subcategories, it is also, know, winter is winter, so you can wear all the, I wouldn't go in the super light tones just because you have such strong features. Yeah. So I would go true to like the richest one. And probably the richest would be like speaking engagements or I don't know, like a Christmas party or something like that where you want to dazzle.
Teri Holland (18:11.508)
No.
Teri Holland (18:17.175)
Cool.
Teri Holland (18:24.704)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (18:27.784)
So what was I gonna say? What were we doing? yeah, yeah, yeah, what I heard you, yeah. So I heard you, what you didn't do was that you did not hiccup in that line of thinking. Like you've obviously, you you're walking your talk as if you didn't hiccup. And so you said, you didn't have that moment where you're like, I don't know, I've never worn red before, what if it goes bad? Or who do I think I am? Which you talk about imposter syndrome and stuff. You know, who do I think I am? What if I look...
Teri Holland (18:31.913)
Yeah. Yeah.
Teri Holland (18:40.119)
Mm.
Teri Holland (18:54.326)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (18:57.994)
Insert whatever that then ends up oftentimes stopping people. So your brain is plenty retrained, of course, and you went through with it. You went through with it. And then the reinforcement, which it is not about impressing other people, but they saw that shine. They saw your confidence. They were inspired. mean, the thing is, is you actually look really good in black and winters look great in black. That is the season that wears black.
Teri Holland (19:04.385)
Thank you.
Teri Holland (19:11.721)
No.
Teri Holland (19:17.431)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (19:23.105)
Thanks.
Marisol Colette (19:25.518)
Everybody else is usually in a Navy or some other blue, but so you can. And I worked with a woman who was doing a big speaking engagement in New York City and she, her whole talk, she used to be a dance teacher and she is a business coach because she has owned a couple of really successful dance studios and businesses. And so she's a business coach also now.
Teri Holland (19:26.006)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (19:29.996)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (19:53.356)
And she has this beautiful body that was part of her talk, which is that somebody called her fat after she was on an interview on a morning show. like, how could she be a dance teacher if she's fat? She has a huge, huge hips and butt. And it's all like part of, I mean, of course it's all part of her beauty. It's like, it is in fact what makes her such a great dancer for the styles of dance that she does. And,
Teri Holland (20:01.111)
Teri Holland (20:06.817)
Wow.
Marisol Colette (20:22.486)
So we put her in, she's also winter, this royal blue form fitted midi dress, bodycon, midi dress. And she had her arms out and she danced and she moved her hips and you could see them as a part of this talk. she, people said, very similar to what they said to you, people said, my gosh.
Teri Holland (20:30.465)
Nice.
Teri Holland (20:39.563)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (20:49.182)
I remembered you, I remembered you and in large part because of what you were wearing. What you were saying was in alignment with this body acceptance that you were talking about, was in alignment with like, could see your body, your dance, the way that you move through the world, your confidence and the confidence to be a business consultant that you could lead people to starting their own businesses successfully.
Teri Holland (20:55.542)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (21:09.867)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (21:17.633)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (21:17.806)
It's like I could see confidence. And everybody else wore black, so she just stood out that way. People remembered that.
Teri Holland (21:20.393)
Amazing.
Teri Holland (21:24.791)
Yeah, yeah. You know, I have to say, I'm so happy you told me that I'm a true winter, because this has been something that has plagued my brain, because I see all the social media accounts that are like, what color season are you? What color season is this person? And showing the side by sides of this is the celebrity in their colors, this is them not. And I have been so obsessed with this lately of being like, I know it's got to be a winter, I must be a winter, but I don't know which winter.
Marisol Colette (21:44.205)
Yeah, yeah.
Teri Holland (21:52.071)
I love black, but should I wear black? This has been cycling in my brain so frequently, I'm like, but I really like black, but everyone wears black. And so, yeah, that was very reassuring to hear. Thank you.
Marisol Colette (21:55.424)
yeah.
Marisol Colette (22:05.176)
Totally, totally, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Teri Holland (22:07.573)
Yeah, it's funny how we get caught up on these things. Speaking of, can you speak more to the psychology of color and how different colors communicate? So if someone's looking at their branding and how they're going to show up within their brand, how do we want to be looking at color?
Marisol Colette (22:25.324)
Yeah, I work with this incredible creative director who's actually really good at that from the the like web design brand, you know, brand logo perspective, because she does, even though she's not a trained trained in any kind of psychology or anything like that, she has also studied a lot about color and values. So she'll elicit from them, you know, what is what are the your three core values of you and your business? And then starting to pull both from
Teri Holland (22:33.515)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (22:55.182)
a very similar way of doing the color allies that I do. She'll find that person's colors and then within that, she will then align each one to their values. So if we have somebody who's a yoga instructor or in some kind of movement practice and peace is part of their values or quiet thoughtfulness or compassion.
Teri Holland (23:00.203)
Okay.
Teri Holland (23:18.059)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (23:23.278)
I would even encourage anybody listening or watching to just say, what do I think of when I think of compassion? You definitely don't think about like a heavy yellowy or red, like a real hard color. You think of maybe something a little bit softer or whatever comes to mind, but you already know that those kinds of colors can evoke something. So if I had a business that was like compassionate,
Teri Holland (23:36.757)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (23:53.704)
know, compassionate yoga or something. And then the colors were hard red, hard black, hard yellow. It's like, I don't know. I don't know that I see that. I would see a video game maybe or something like that, you know, or a tech company.
Teri Holland (24:00.225)
Mmm.
Teri Holland (24:05.333)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (24:09.655)
Right, yep. So how do you marry that? Like you have the, you know, this is the brand, this is what the person's doing, and then you have what looks good on this person, and how do you align those two?
Marisol Colette (24:12.142)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (24:24.556)
Yeah, there's going to be compassion in every season. it's like compassion or strength in every season. it would just it is it is a good idea for people to know what colors enhance their natural their natural beauty because that that will support then then you choose within that. Like for me, I'm a platinum summer, which is even more detailed than a subcategory. It's like its own little thing.
Teri Holland (24:27.657)
Okay.
Teri Holland (24:39.979)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (24:43.904)
Okay.
Teri Holland (24:49.867)
Wow. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (24:51.382)
Yeah, and so color, a color, one of my really, really strong colors is a berry, like a really red, purple berry, and also a deep green. I'm trying to think, it's not forest green, but it's like a dial down from that. And those are my colors that I would wear to a gala, or if I had to buy one outfit for one single event, and I would do that. Those are my more striking colors, my powerful colors.
Teri Holland (25:06.027)
Okay.
Teri Holland (25:09.911)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (25:21.302)
And then, yeah, like Saturday morning, have this new set of jammies from a company that sent me some to try NeiWaI. And Sparrow is the color. So it's basically a purplish mauve, like really light, sweet color. So everybody has power colors.
Teri Holland (25:21.899)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (25:41.892)
nice.
Yeah, okay, so it's just matching like the brand values and the brand and then your personal palette and your style. Yeah, that's so cool. What if like, I can see it working really well for a personal brand, but what if it's a bigger brand and it's not a personal brand anymore and you have an, like, how do you match those two if it's not a personal brand?
Marisol Colette (25:49.868)
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (26:11.694)
Say more. So we're talking about if somebody works for someone else or if their brand got so big that it's just
Teri Holland (26:13.472)
Okay.
Teri Holland (26:16.811)
Yeah, or if their brand just got so big, it's just not them anymore. It's no longer about them.
Marisol Colette (26:22.834)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it sounds to me like at that point, if it's become like if you've created a whole organization or a corporation, know, then it, you know, you're also trying to represent. then, yeah, the brand is no longer you. So you're also trying to represent the largesse, I think that's the word, like the bigness of the brand itself and that it is an entity with lots of people power, right?
Teri Holland (26:43.457)
Hmm. Yeah.
Teri Holland (26:51.701)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (26:51.734)
So I could see how then you would probably turn the dial up on those colors. I caution people to do an entire rebrand that then makes it like that there's no flavor of you in there unless, I mean, if you sell it, it's somebody else's, but yeah.
Teri Holland (27:08.693)
Right. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. That makes sense. How do you approach working with someone who's like really struggling with getting dressed and showing up and really struggling with the emotional side of getting dressed and being visible?
Marisol Colette (27:28.046)
Yeah, that is a lot of people. And that is what the benefit of having a therapist does for just the simple introduction. when I'm on a call and somebody says, wanna work with you and I'm getting to know them, the sensitivity with which I approach that element, you know, if I...
I know you know these terms and I'm imagining your listeners have learned a lot of these terms from you, like override. So like if we override some experience and I'm like, no, no, this is gonna look great. And then that person just isn't ready, even though it probably looks great from a technical perspective, but they aren't ready. The amount of shrinking they would do in a social setting, I would just not feel comfortable. So stretching.
Teri Holland (28:01.473)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (28:10.4)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (28:19.477)
Right.
Marisol Colette (28:22.122)
I titrate that, just like in therapy, you wanna, I'm not gonna say, hey, start at the top. Let's go for the most, I just met you, let's go for the most difficult thing. It's like, let's ease into this so your nervous system can feel like it is catching up as well. Yes, I push people outside of their comfort zone, but at a pace that works for them. So it's just a little bit at a time. For people who feel really sensitive, some are just like,
Teri Holland (28:29.64)
Hahaha
Teri Holland (28:47.488)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (28:51.118)
do it girl, like let's get it done. I want a total overhaul and they are showing me and I am seeing that they truly are ready. But yeah, I had somebody recently who, a highly intellectual woman, incredible human writer, just like so intelligent and grew up as a feminist and was like, my body's the least important thing. My looks are the least important thing about me. True. And she,
Teri Holland (28:53.963)
Wow.
Teri Holland (29:19.595)
Right, yeah.
Marisol Colette (29:21.128)
She was, but she came to me and was like, I've been living in my head and this is the most important thing from a values perspective, my brain, what I know, how I feel, the way I relate to people. But she had a dissociation with her body. Like it had gone to the level where she had not ever reclaimed a sense of authenticity and self through how she dressed. And she just found herself, she said, I look like I'm like,
Teri Holland (29:30.219)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (29:42.167)
yeah.
Marisol Colette (29:50.058)
older than I am. so my what she meant by that is like, I don't feel the vitality that I feel inside my body. I don't feel that clothes were baggy, a lot of grays, browns, colors that, you know, just really kind of washed her out and muted her and invisibility. But through her through writing, she's doing writing through her poetry and her writing, you know, she was
Teri Holland (29:59.447)
Hmm.
Teri Holland (30:05.899)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (30:16.642)
It was like a coming out for her. So this was an alignment of the coming out. And so, yeah, we took it slow, but we had a great time. We had a great time. And we got there.
Teri Holland (30:25.431)
Yeah. And what was the the end result of working with her? What was her transformation like?
Marisol Colette (30:31.616)
Yeah, so she had a lot of political events to attend with her spouse lives in DC. so she said she walked in. yeah. The most recent thing she reported back to me was she said she walked into a room. So she's around a lot of big politicians and some celebrities. And she found somebody she was really interested in talking to. She said she walked right up to them and they had a really great conversation. She described to me what would have happened before. Walk into the room.
just this really long period of discomfort in her skin, like, do I fit in? You know, like all of that background noise that would have taken up the amount of time that she would have had to have that conversation. So it was a shortcut. She walked in, she saw the person she had been wanting to talk to, she walked right up to them, she felt the confidence, and she said it was because of how she felt in her outfit. And then she got this extended period of time of talking to them. Yeah.
Teri Holland (31:10.188)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (31:25.097)
Amazing.
Wow. Wow. that's what an incredible transformation in someone like that's, that's amazing.
Marisol Colette (31:38.388)
You should get to live your life.
Teri Holland (31:40.713)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. think that's, yeah, that's a great way to put it. You get to live your life. Yeah, yeah. How can fashion act as a strategy to help build credibility in business?
Marisol Colette (31:54.482)
Mm-hmm. People notice when you're hiding, people, a lot of people, okay, so let's think about the age of social media, right? So we show our faces much more. I mean, even here, like, it's not just an audio podcast, it's also a visual podcast. And so a lot of people have these incredible businesses, but have never shown their face because they're not confident in themselves. They don't like themselves or they have some narrative about their body, which...
Teri Holland (32:02.411)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (32:21.866)
is totally valid for them to have because it's something that society and, you know, like supremacist culture, patriarchy has all overlaid onto them. So it's totally normal to feel that way. And they've never had the support needed to really transform their sense of themselves so that they can show up. If I see a business and I don't know who's behind it, like especially in this day and age,
Teri Holland (32:32.097)
Yep.
Teri Holland (32:44.523)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (32:50.762)
Is it a bot? Is it real? Whatever. If I can't see that person, I have a harder time attaching to the product or the service that's being offered. So it allows people to show up. It can be really striking and engaging. So there's a magnetism that comes from like your red suit. mean, I'm so, it's such a cool thing to have had happen and then to talk about today. Yeah. It's like a magnetism. People were like, my gosh.
Teri Holland (32:59.819)
Yep.
Teri Holland (33:15.009)
Thanks.
Teri Holland (33:21.047)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (33:21.801)
wow, wow, wow, know, it's showing up great. Do a photo shoot. mean, think about that. If you were like, I've been needing to do a photo shoot. And then somebody was like, here is your look. This is your look. And then you do a photo shoot and all of a sudden you have new imagery. And then you're like, oh, I don't know, put that on social media or I want to, you know, revamp my website and add these images. And then you've got more visibility and more SEO. mean, this is very technical, but like that is.
Teri Holland (33:34.165)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (33:49.954)
That is how it works. It just is the domino effect.
Teri Holland (33:50.391)
Yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely. how about like, you know, how much should you dress to represent what it is you do? Like for example, before I did what I do now, 10 years ago, I was a personal trainer. So I would go to networking events looking like a personal trainer, but I would wear like nice lululemon, like not the stuff I'd work out in, but like the nicer lululemon jacket and stuff.
I wouldn't wear, say, a suit to go networking because I always felt like that would be incongruent with what I was doing and how I wanted to be seen. Is that valid? Is that really a thing? Or how should we be choosing our clothes to represent our work?
Marisol Colette (34:34.858)
Mm-hmm. We'll have two questions. One would be, what would be the alternative? Like wearing a suit regardless or wearing like business casual for the networking regardless? Mm-hmm. And then my other question is how would it, how did you feel by putting on the more elevated pieces when you were going to it? Like, yeah.
Teri Holland (34:45.269)
Yeah, yeah, either. Yeah. Yeah.
Teri Holland (34:57.771)
Good. Yeah, I feel good.
Marisol Colette (34:59.918)
I mean, you just said it. You said, if I did something else, like wore a suit, it would feel incongruent. People wouldn't know. It'd be like, instead of, I can think of this woman, Georgia, who lives in Asheville, who I see at networking events, and she's also a personal trainer. And she does the same thing. You know that she is because of how she dresses. So I could ask her, what do you do? And then when she says, I'm a personal trainer, I'm like, oh yeah, obviously. Obviously.
Teri Holland (35:15.339)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (35:21.355)
Right.
Teri Holland (35:28.247)
Yeah, yeah, it makes sense, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (35:30.058)
Mm-hmm. And then it clicks for people. And I like what you talked about. You elevated. So instead of wearing your oldest set of workout leggings and a hoodie, you would elevate it a little bit and put on the nicer, jacket and the nicer pants. And I think that's the answer.
Teri Holland (35:40.129)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (35:47.318)
Yeah.
Okay, okay. You know, I'm thinking of a very specific example. So I'm going to run this by you and see what your take on this would be. But I was at a networking event somewhat recently, like in the last several months. And there was a woman who is a alternative, she's in the alternative healing space, but very science backed, very, she's very well educated, very trained in what she does. And she showed up in a beautiful like, suit, it was a dress suit, blazer.
looked great. I thought she looked fantastic, but she got feedback from someone at that event saying, no one's going to go to you looking like this, because you look too corporate, you look like a doctor and they're not, they're done with doctors, they're looking for an alternative solution, they're not going to come to you. If you look like this, you need a much softer appearance, you should be in soft fuzzy textures. And, and she's like, well, that's really not me.
And my response to that was, I think she looks more credible. Like to me, I think she looks so professional. I can trust her in this look. Like it builds trust to me. So I'm wondering like, what is your take on that? Like if, yeah, and it was interesting to me that we had such totally different responses to what she was wearing, where I saw her as like, I could go to her. I could definitely book an appointment with her.
Marisol Colette (36:53.07)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (37:11.157)
and another person saw the exact opposite of you look untrustworthy because you're in such a structured suit.
Marisol Colette (37:18.37)
I mean, what I heard was that her response was, but this is me. So she was really clear about it. you know, sample size of two and you get one client out of one out of two clients. you know, that's a yeah, 50 % conversion rate. You know, it's like that.
Teri Holland (37:24.929)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Teri Holland (37:32.917)
Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah.
Teri Holland (37:42.369)
That's pretty good.
Marisol Colette (37:43.54)
Yeah, I would say. you know, I mean, but that's the other thing is like all of the people that you're working or that are listening to your podcast and that you work with that we all know not everybody is for us and we're not for everybody. And so I would just say you might be you might just be more aligned to be a client of hers or someone like you who saw that credibility. I mean, she she said she was being really authentic. She was like, I don't think I can do it different and still be me.
Teri Holland (37:55.607)
True. Yeah.
Teri Holland (38:11.457)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (38:12.78)
So then the person who sees her for her and trusts that, then that's a good, that's a better match of a client anyways.
Teri Holland (38:19.305)
Okay. Okay. I like that. I like that. Okay. I think I'm just checking if there's anything else I had for you that I haven't asked you yet. yeah. Yeah. I really want to talk about this. So you talk about aligning your outer style with your aspirational self. How can we use clothes to step into our future goals?
Marisol Colette (38:46.594)
Yeah. When I do photo shoots, marketing and branding photo shoots with people, I ask that question, right? Like, where are you headed? Like, why are we doing this photo shoot? Because some part of your business either grew and you need to represent that growth or is in the process of growing or you want it to grow or you're building a business for the first time. But you're you're headed in another direction, whether you're on your way or going to be on your way. And so I will always
Teri Holland (38:55.222)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (39:17.022)
I always have a couple of outfits in there, if not all of them, if the person's open to it, that represent this future version of themselves. And it can be, it can take having a conversation, like a couple of conversations with people being like, I don't know, you know, like telling me all the things that their brain is telling them as to why, why to stay safe, why to not do that. And, know, the conversation is, well, you know, we're, if we're wearing what you wore for your last photo shoot or something that you feel
like really overly comfortable in, do we think that that is going to represent this new version of you in life and business? So there is a stretch and, then people either are on set for the photo shoot or get their results and they, they feel, they very much feel like they grew into that person just in the process of working together and they see themselves,
Teri Holland (39:55.361)
Okay.
Teri Holland (40:11.372)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (40:13.042)
That is who I am and who I am becoming.
Teri Holland (40:17.451)
Yeah, that's so cool.
Marisol Colette (40:19.126)
And they, it's, yeah, yeah. So it's a little bit of a fake it till you make it or jump before you're ready, that kind of thing. Like step into who you wanna become. It's the old way of saying it was dressed for the job you want. So it's similar.
Teri Holland (40:36.331)
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a client who did that, that very thing. He was in real estate and he wanted to get into luxury real estate. And so, and he knew, he knew before he even became a realtor. This is, this is the level of house I want to sell. These are the clients I want to work with. So the very first house he sold, he took his entire commission check and went and bought a whole new wardrobe, designer clothes, high end, everything very polished, tailored. He
Marisol Colette (40:42.466)
Yeah. Yes.
Marisol Colette (40:50.126)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (40:55.33)
Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
Teri Holland (41:02.795)
couldn't afford rent, didn't know how he's paying rent the next month, which I think is a little extreme, but he knew that if he looked the part, he would get another listing and he would sell another house. And he did, it all worked out for him. But it was so clear to him that I have to look this way if I want to work with these people and sell this type of home that I need to elevate myself. And it worked out very well for him. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (41:05.582)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (41:15.458)
Big leap of faith.
Marisol Colette (41:24.322)
down.
Marisol Colette (41:27.833)
I did this for myself. So when I turned 40 last year, felt different. I felt different when I turned 30. I really felt different. I was three years postpartum and that was such a difficult time. having a kid was incredibly transformative. And I was approaching 40 and I was like, there's just this maturation that I feel right now.
Teri Holland (41:35.191)
Yep.
Marisol Colette (41:57.078)
So I decided it was time to have a new photo shoot. The last photo shoot, the last two photo shoots I had had previously, was postpartum, so like my hair looked different, my body looked different, everything looked different. And so I, and very much me at that time, very bold, bright, bubbly. And I decided to pay attention to, of my palette, which colors felt more sophisticated because people think I'm, you know,
Teri Holland (41:57.132)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (42:25.826)
bubbly and adorable, but did they understand the deep transformation that would come from my work with them? Did they really understand my wisdom? And 10 years in business for myself, 20 years as a therapist, like the education that I got, having a kid, you know, all of these things that offered me life experience to develop the wisdom that I can offer back to my clients. Like you just couldn't see that. And so...
Teri Holland (42:34.871)
you
Teri Holland (42:52.876)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (42:54.798)
I did a big photo shoot and I proverbially quit my job. I asked my husband at the top of, what was it, this year or last year? was last year. I was like, what would you say if I closed my business? And he was great. He was like, we're closing Soul Reflection and we don't know what we're gonna do. You know, it's like, cause I bring it up half the income.
Teri Holland (43:10.689)
Wow.
Teri Holland (43:19.894)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (43:21.122)
But I needed to know that I could kind of dissolve me as I had been and step into this me that I, in this next decade of my business. And I would say to people, because I was on a couple of podcasts in that time period, and I was actually on NPR, North Carolina's NPR, and I was like, I don't know. Like, I don't know what's coming.
Teri Holland (43:38.668)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (43:49.1)
But I, like you with the red suit, just kept following my instincts. So I proverbially closed my business and got more clients than I knew what to do with. But I think it was because I was putting in that effort of like, not who I am. I'm not who I was. I did a new branding photo shoot that are incredible. I hired my own makeup and hair artists, which I have never done because I've always done my own. I had a whole team. It was awesome. And then I...
Teri Holland (44:03.039)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (44:14.295)
Yeah.
amazing.
Marisol Colette (44:18.286)
Yeah, and then I hired one of my employees full time. Huge investment. And I cannot believe this, but I am leading a retreat, a style and soul retreat in Italy in April. And that was, it is, thank you. And like.
Teri Holland (44:25.484)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (44:34.635)
Wow. that's incredible.
Marisol Colette (44:42.654)
Yeah, I I had to take the financial risk of hiring this person full time. I had to dissolve the old me. had to step into this. I was worried about the mature sophistication thing. was like, I don't ever want to be too serious or I don't, you know, I don't want to be, I want to be fun. And, but I didn't lose any of that. just, I just opened up people being able to see the other part of me without having to work with me first, but just being able to see that. So.
Teri Holland (44:57.367)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (45:02.816)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (45:11.148)
Yeah, and I mean, that's the outcome. I mean, I'm traveling, you know, to Italy to lead this beautiful retreat. So that was a huge, yeah. And that's, mean, a little girl can't do a retreat in Italy. A woman can, yeah. I mean, there are no rules. Anybody can do what they want. But you know what I mean? For me, that was for me.
Teri Holland (45:13.548)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (45:25.919)
Yep. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Teri Holland (45:33.003)
Yeah. Yeah. And I get that because I'm 44 now and I had that sort of same or very similar like awakening around 40 of like, how do I want to show up now? How do I want to be and it's not like, you know, and I don't think it's like a 40 like, now I need to like matronly thing, not that at all, but like, you know, there is something spiritual that happens around the age of 40 where we really step into our power and really
Marisol Colette (45:45.464)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (45:53.55)
Mm-mm. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (46:01.41)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (46:02.835)
start showing up in I think an even more authentic way. Or we have the opportunity to, we can shut it down, but there's this awakening inside that's like, okay, this is who you are, this is who you're here to be. Are you gonna step into it and show the world who you are? And I think that's so powerful. Yeah, yeah.
Marisol Colette (46:07.096)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (46:16.023)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (46:19.79)
That's right. Unapologetically. Yeah. I also, I hear that 60 is actually the best decade for this. I mean, yeah. I mean, which just means 50 is even better than 40, but I have heard so many people say at 60, that is when they app, they literally drop the rock of other people's expectations. Like we have done, like we just talked about doing that to some degree. Like, am I going to be bold and courageous enough to step into my authenticity in myself?
Teri Holland (46:26.705)
really? Cool.
Yeah.
Teri Holland (46:39.144)
wow.
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (46:49.303)
which does mean saying, really can't care what other people think. But apparently 60 is even better.
Teri Holland (46:54.529)
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I just got goosebumps. I'm like, oh, something to look forward to. That sounds exciting. Yeah, I'm so curious what that will be like. Amazing.
Marisol Colette (46:59.246)
Absolutely, absolutely.
Marisol Colette (47:06.158)
And just to your point about the matronly thing, I have a lot of people who are either getting divorced or have just had kids, so they become a parent, or they are stepping into a new part of their business, or it is an age, they're turning a certain age, and they will say things like, don't wanna look, like I can't wear that, because I'm...
Teri Holland (47:23.297)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (47:30.296)
too big or I'm too old or I'm too this, right? And the race got there, or my arms or my legs, my ankles, my toes. And I can't wear that. And, you know, for me, the sophistication, like I heard this similar words, not I can't, but I heard similar words of like, I don't want to wear that. But there was no part of me that felt like I was stepping into like a Kronos number.
Teri Holland (47:30.775)
Teri Holland (47:35.927)
Hmm.
Teri Holland (47:58.997)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (47:59.526)
age. It was stepping into a sense of myself. if at, you know, 75 you want a way to express more vitality, we may be looking in a different department than where some other 75 year old people may be shopping. So yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.
Teri Holland (48:19.531)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's, yeah, it's so interesting. as you were talking about that, I was thinking about how like, know, growing up in the 80s, like it seemed like women would reach a certain age and they'd cut their hair short and they would wear very shapeless things. And I remember even as a kid being like, I don't, I don't want to do that. Like that seems so boring. And unless you want that, but otherwise, like that seems so boring.
Marisol Colette (48:34.328)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (48:40.814)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (48:47.137)
that it's like time to cut your hair. yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm, yeah, exactly, exactly. And I don't know if you've seen these memes, but there's all these memes that go around about the golden girls and how they were actually like in their like mid to late forties, early fifties. Yes, yes. And I look at that and like there's, wow. Like, what were people doing to women back then? Like what? I was so glad we're not there anymore.
Marisol Colette (48:47.458)
Yeah, the prescription of it, yeah, for sure. Yeah, who made that up? So it's just like, did I get...
Marisol Colette (49:15.386)
because they were becoming invisible. Yeah. But that, but I am still, I'm, mean, one of, you know, one of the things that I hear the most is I can't work with you till I lose five pounds. I mean, you could be 500 pounds or 125 pounds. It's always five pounds. It's always five pounds. And it's like, okay, so you have to get dressed every day. So why not enjoy it? Even if your body is changing, even if you want it to change in any direction, you know, you had to get dressed. So let's enjoy it.
Teri Holland (49:17.897)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (49:26.35)
Teri Holland (49:30.315)
Yeah. Yeah.
Teri Holland (49:34.817)
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (49:44.556)
And that would, yeah, there's no more invisible women. That's just not a thing. Although that, there are people who still grew up hearing that. Even you and I grew up hearing that. So we're all just changing the narrative. Yeah.
Teri Holland (49:44.567)
Totally.
Teri Holland (49:48.255)
No, no.
Teri Holland (49:53.685)
Yeah. Yeah.
Teri Holland (49:58.401)
Yeah, yeah, good, good. And I get that, like the whole weight loss thing, because when I went from being a personal trainer, I made the transition in my career because I was having a bunch of health issues. And with that came an unexplained rapid weight gain that I could not control. so when you were talking about that, I'm like, that was me several years ago of thinking like, I can't buy new clothes until I lose weight. I'm just going to wear...
Marisol Colette (50:15.842)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (50:22.081)
five pounds.
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (50:26.591)
these things that hide my body because I have to lose weight before I can buy nice things. And I remember just one day waking up and going, no, no, I'm going to love this body and I'm going to dress this body because I love this body and that's it. And if I lose weight, I'll buy new clothes. Not a big deal. Yeah. Yeah. And it made such a difference in how I felt by just buying things that looked good on my body as it was at that time. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (50:39.544)
Mm-hmm.
Marisol Colette (50:43.886)
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yes, exactly, exactly.
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing that's gonna be more uplifting than feeling good in wherever you are in whatever stage of your life. That was after I had my kiddo. So I'm a square five foot tall and I gained like, I don't know, 50 pounds or something like a gained a fair amount of weight and on my small frame too.
Teri Holland (51:00.203)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (51:18.73)
And I looked cute every day of that pregnancy, and it was during COVID, and I looked cute every day of that pregnancy because I wanted to and I could. And it gave me, a lot of people were like, she hasn't had kids, she doesn't know what it's like to dress when you have an infant and you're breastfeeding or you're getting spit up on or you're a dad and you're sleep deprived or you're, you know.
Teri Holland (51:22.411)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (51:35.031)
you
Marisol Colette (51:45.166)
whatever spouse and you're like raising a toddler or your body has changed if you're the person that gave birth for the birthing parent. And it's like what, so I got some street cred when I had my own experience. And then after that, I didn't do anything intentionally to lose the weight. Eventually I got to kind of my steady weight, my like natural weight, but I didn't do anything. So for years, I just kept figuring out what to wear with this.
Teri Holland (51:46.219)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (52:05.836)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (52:13.761)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (52:13.934)
evolving body, but also much heavier than I had been. But I didn't, but I showed up. I mean, I have this post from forever ago on Instagram where I'm wearing like a lacy black bra. And then, you know, this was super fun, but it was to make a point, a lacy black bra with like a little body chain and like one side pulled down with my kid on my, on my breast and being just like.
Teri Holland (52:27.927)
Bye.
Teri Holland (52:35.639)
Wow.
Marisol Colette (52:38.39)
just keep dressing for you. Like I get that we're all tired. I was struggling mightily with depression and anxiety, but getting dressed and remembering that I was still me was so valuable for my self-esteem during this very, very challenging time. So.
Teri Holland (52:44.129)
Yeah
Teri Holland (52:59.787)
Yeah, I think that that is such a great message for everybody listening to hear that. On that note, any final words you'd like to leave the audience with today?
Marisol Colette (53:12.126)
First of all, please reach out if you have any questions. And my newsletter has a lot of these same kinds of conversations, these kind of authentic, open conversations, somewhat controversial at times, and also just really leans into the psychology and mindfulness of it. So feel free to subscribe to my newsletter. And then there's a couple freebies. I have a stretcher style simply.
Teri Holland (53:17.089)
Good.
Teri Holland (53:22.699)
Mm-hmm.
Teri Holland (53:32.319)
Nice.
Marisol Colette (53:34.924)
five-day challenge and it is speaking back to that titration. It's just trying one simple thing every day and taking note of how you feel. I have a self-guided closet inventory and things so there's a couple things people can do just to have that sense and the self-guided closet inventory is also you know noticing, noticing what you have, what you like, what you don't like. So it's all about the felt sense of things.
Teri Holland (53:42.135)
cool.
Marisol Colette (54:01.954)
And then, yeah, I would love to talk to anybody about working together, especially your listeners who are entrepreneurs who are trying to show up in a new and more bold and authentic way.
Teri Holland (54:02.231)
great.
Teri Holland (54:07.957)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (54:15.575)
Perfect. Perfect. I yeah, I come to, I mean, that sounds amazing. That sounds amazing. So I will link. Oh, good. Good. I will link all that in the show notes. Do you have the link for Italy in your website? I'll grab it. Okay, good. I'll put that there as well, because that sounds phenomenal. I'm like, I'm going to look at if I can go, because that sounds really cool. Yeah. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (54:16.928)
and come to Italy. But we do have a few spots left. Yeah, we just opened registration. So we have a few spots left. Yeah.
Marisol Colette (54:32.78)
I do. I do. Yeah. Yeah.
it's, yes, yes, please. I mean, I would, I will just say that, yes, I will just say I've been so unbelievably overjoyed with the people who have signed up. was like, you know, didn't know, I didn't know who I was gonna, who was gonna be able and willing and available. And it is a really, really, really cool group of people so far. Yeah.
Teri Holland (54:44.768)
So much fun.
Teri Holland (54:56.086)
Yeah.
Teri Holland (55:04.566)
Cool. that sounds amazing. And I have just a couple of rapid fire questions for you if you are, if you're game for it. What's a book, an app or resource that you think people should use to grow their business?
Marisol Colette (55:11.918)
Okay, got it.
Marisol Colette (55:24.067)
your time. Dan Martell.
Teri Holland (55:25.943)
yeah, yeah, yeah. Good one.
Teri Holland (55:30.965)
Nice, awesome, good. What's a fashion trend you'd like to see get left behind?
Marisol Colette (55:41.446)
I was disappointed that skinny jeans came back so fast. People, if you've got them, you love them. I've got thick legs and they were, they always felt too restrictive, but I wore them because that's kind of all you could buy for a while. I was disappointed. They made fun of us millennials for hanging on too long. And then, so we all finally let go and then they flipped the script. Brought it back. Rude. I do too. Yeah.
Teri Holland (55:54.101)
Yeah. Yeah.
Teri Holland (56:01.717)
Yep. Yep. I'm with you on that. I'm still hanging. I love the wide leg denim. Like I'm here for it. So I'm not letting it go yet. Not going back to the skinny jeans yet. Or ever. Yeah, maybe ever. That is a good point. And what is your favorite fashion trend?
Marisol Colette (56:13.28)
Yeah. Or ever.
Marisol Colette (56:29.07)
I think the one that would maybe be most relatable is pattern mixing. know? Yeah, just it'll if you get the colors, there has to be something familial in each piece. So whether it's a like the size of the pattern, a color and tone or yeah, things like that. there's something familial, putting it all together, it looks wacky and yet so put together at the same time.
Teri Holland (56:33.916)
yeah, yeah.
Teri Holland (56:50.401)
Cool.
Teri Holland (56:59.989)
Very cool, very cool. And what's a color that you will never wear?
Marisol Colette (57:10.605)
None.
Teri Holland (57:10.753)
Or is there one? Wow.
Marisol Colette (57:13.678)
I don't look, it's funny, I don't love Navy on me, which is is my, is, it's not really in my palette, but it is a summer color. I don't like Navy. Just, I know this is rapid fire, but to that point, there is also alignment with our personalities. And so while something may be in your color palette, it also might not be representative of your personality. And I feel like Navy,
Teri Holland (57:25.877)
Yeah. Fair enough.
Teri Holland (57:42.795)
Yeah.
Marisol Colette (57:43.628)
registers as fairly conservative on me.
Teri Holland (57:46.305)
Gotcha, yeah, cool. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I've really enjoyed this conversation and I know everyone listening is enjoying it too. Thank you.
Marisol Colette (57:54.071)
Me too.
Awesome. Thank you so much.
