[00:00:00] Hey, we're not going to necessarily find that planner or that app right away. How are you on your foundations? Because we're never going to get ahead in business if our foundations are all out of place. So I'm talking obviously things like, you know, rest, right. You know, nutrition movement.
Welcome back to another episode of success in mind. Today, I'm joined by my very good friend, Kristy powers to talk about all things, ADHD and entrepreneurship. And if you're someone who has ADHD and you're an entrepreneur, you are in the right place. My friends. So, let me introduce you to my friend.
Kristy Kristy Powers is a dedicated and passionate ADHD coach who discovered her calling after her own journey with an ADHD diagnosis. Her unique approach, combines foundational wellness elements, such as arrest, nutrition, and movement and innovative strategies like body doubling and to help her clients thrive. Christy emphasizes mindset work, [00:01:00] focusing on compassion, grace. And connection to build a supportive community for those navigating ADHD. She's committed to helping her clients find balanced direction and fulfillment in their personal and professional lives.
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Hi, Kristy. I'm so excited to have you back on the show.
I'm so excited to be back. Yay. And we're talking about something completely different this time, which is also really fun.
Yeah. Kind of on brand too, I guess, if you think about it.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Something different. Different. Yeah. So let's start with what led you into becoming an ADHD coach?
Like, what, what brought you here?
What brought me here? Well, I mean, first it was actually discovering that I thought that I [00:02:00] had ADHD. And not even that I thought, it was sort of like a knowing, like when you read it, when I read this, uh, particular article, I was like, like, I know this is me. I know this is me. But at the time, like back in 2018, Um, back at the, back at that time, it was not as widely talked about as it is now these days, right?
So it was like, oh no, I'm going to bring this to my doctor. Is she even going to believe me? But I'm so thankful that she was supportive of it. And even just to back it up a little bit further, I think a lot of us mothers who are undiagnosed are in the same boat. Is that we're looking to our children first, and then we discover, Oh, wait a second.
I mean, because this is something that's highly heritable, right? So we see it in grandparents and children and our generation who's being diagnosed. So when I went through that, I was like, well, what do I do? So I went to Google, of course, and Google told me get an ADHD coach. I'm like, what the heck? Like, I didn't even know there was one of these things.
So as soon as I saw that too, that was another thing in my gut, or it was like an absolute, Oh, I think this, I think this could really be for me.
And now here I am. Now, here [00:03:00] you are. Perfect. And so, what was getting diagnosed like for you? What was the, what was the
process? Okay. Yeah. So, the process was, I mean, first of all, seeing your family doctor here in B.
C. in the Lower Mainland. We had, um, a facility, I don't know if that's the right word, but like a center, a place that specializes in diagnosing adult, uh, ADHD adults. And again, at that time, I was lucky because it was only a three month wait and, um, it was also covered under our government MST. Um, and I know since then, I think, I think the longer, the waits are a lot longer.
So anyways, you go to that and you do just this huge form, a long questionnaire, which is also very ironic. So I had to fill in paperwork, some check boxes and everything else. Although the checking, checking boxes are really good for dopamine. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And, uh, and then you go in and you meet with them.
And I think one of the important parts too, is that, I mean, we can get in the conversation about how, you know, does everybody have a little ADHD? Um, but it's really like the significance of how it affects your life and from when you first saw [00:04:00] it. So, uh, they also go back to like, where has it shown up in Wild, and so you kind of also start there and revisit that part.
Um, and then so all together, um, that's, that's how they, that's how they do it. So they kind of, I guess on a, on a score and I remember she said, you passed with flying colors. Yay. I was like, oh, yay.
Go me. Wow. Wow. Yeah, I went through, I went through the same, I think I went through the same place that you went through.
Probably, yeah. To do it. I think it was the same place. And it was, I did not pass the first time. The first time I got a, I'm confused about you. I don't really know. So I'm going to pass you on to someone else who, uh, will redo it and see. Which was very confusing to me because to me it was like, I'm like, I'm sure I have this.
And then. But then when I thought back over the assessment and talking with my husband about it, he was like, were you speaking openly or were you putting on [00:05:00] like your coaching hat and using all your tools that you know, help you like pretend you don't have those tools. Go back like 10 years before you learned all these strategies and think about your life then.
Cause, and I was like, Oh yeah. And so I realized like I was. Um, filtering it through a different lens without looking at if I didn't learn all these coping strategies and then where would I be? And that was a very different picture. And so when I sat with the, that was a nurse who I first sat with or first met with, and then I met with the doctor and he was like, no, I'm pretty confident you have it.
Yeah. He's like, but you do have good tools. Like you have developed some good strategies that help, but no, you have it. It's like, okay, that's better.
I think you really hit the nail on the head there because I have done training with you before and I do think this I think I think actually how beneficial it was and how grateful I was going into that because a lot of people when they get their diagnosis they're really in like a [00:06:00] really tough place they're in a really You know, a place of like deep regret or just all the stuff.
But I had done so much mindset work and stuff going into it. Again, that's the word that I always use too, like seeing it, being, seeing it through a different lens and having a different understanding of yourself. Because I did that pre work, a lot of the pre work, I feel like I started off with a foundation where I was already like, okay, like it just, yeah, I think, yeah, that, that definitely made a difference too, so.
How did getting diagnosed and how did that change your life? Like what did, what happened afterwards?
I think the number one thing for me was just a huge validation. It was just. The validation for me was probably the most massive thing. And so like, I had like an ugly cry and it wasn't like an ugly cry from regret.
Although, you know, I have had tiny moments of that too, but it was like this ugly cry of like, Oh, like relief, like just relief, validation, understanding, just not feeling like, wow, like this full [00:07:00] 30 plus where I can't remember what age I was at, like maybe 33, 34. My entire life, like not just adult life, like this goes back to like, childhood and, and being a teen and being in college.
I'm like, bang bang bang. I'm like, it just all brings this level of understanding. And so for me, like the word I use is like validating. That is how it changed, changed my life. And it, and And also, it opened up the doors to find community and find other people, because I think that's another huge, huge part when you're connecting with other people who have the same brains, who have had the same experiences, like that, that's even just another level of like validation, that that connection, community with others.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And, and I love that you bring up that community piece, because I remember talking to you after I got diagnosed, and I was like, but I have so many friends who have it, you're like, well, we. flock to each other. There's a reason, there's a reason you have so many friends with it. And it was, yeah, I remember that conversation.
And I always think back and [00:08:00] laugh because I was so adverse to having it because I kept seeing all my friends getting diagnosed. And I thought, well, we can't, everyone can't have it. Like that can't be everybody. And then I remember talking with another friend, and we were having the same discussion, like we were talking about, well, all these women that we know are getting diagnosed right now, and, like, I do those things too, like, I'm that way too, like, this, this can't be everyone, and then we both around the same time had this moment of, wait a minute, wait a minute, maybe the reason why we think everyone does that is because we also have, we also have, so we both went out and got Assessed, didn't know, we did it independently, didn't know she was doing it and I was doing it, and then both found out we have it, and then reconvened, and we're like, like the secret club, so this is why, totally, we were like, this is why it seems like everyone around us has it, because we've also just been drawn to [00:09:00] people who think the way we think, or who have similar Habits and stuff, and which segues me into, it seems very common in entrepreneurs and in this entrepreneurial world, it seems much more prevalent.
Yeah,
for sure.
Is there, like, is there a reason for that or why do we see so much of this in entrepreneurs?
I mean, I think, again, just going back to the birds of a feather flock together, and because you and I, we, we are in the entrepreneurial space, so there's a lot of people like us. And yes, I mean, I know that, um, what, when I was doing my coach training, uh, the stat that was given is that if you have ADHD, you're 300 percent more likely to be an entrepreneur.
Um, I've also recognized 500%, that's just recently, but 300 percent is the, is the stat that I've read. And I mean, it's honestly, it feels true when you're surrounded by people, it makes perfect sense and it makes perfect sense that we kind of lead the entrepreneurial lifestyle is because we don't necessarily fit [00:10:00] the nine to five, the nine to five job, you know, traditional.
Um, and I mean, there are, there are strategies to kind of help that. And I think like after the fact, I think I know of some people who are now that they have the strategies, maybe they're revisiting, you You know, having, having like traditional employment, but, but on the other side of things for us, like there's so many wonderful, wonderful things.
Obviously, the novelty, right, we're an interest based nervous system, so, you know, we get to be creative and we get to change things up and have variety and do things the way that we, we want to do them. So, I think there are definitely a lot of, a lot of reasons why we all end up in this space together.
It makes so much sense.
It does. And I remember back, like, talking to my husband about it, and at first he was like, no, you don't have it. I do those same things too. Like, I also have those habits. I do that. I struggle with that. You don't have ADHD. And then he got diagnosed with ADHD when
he
was, he was getting treatment for trauma and his therapist [00:11:00] brought up to him.
Do you think you might have ADHD? Has that ever occurred to you? And he's like, no, but my wife would say I do. Yes. And then, and now he's like fully like acknowledges and knows that he has it and works with it.
And I think his line of work, too, is also another sort of area where you would see neurodivergent people flourish in, right?
Tons. Tons. And that's what he's starting to recognize, because he's a police officer, and he sees that, and now having discussions with other police officers, he's found, like, a lot of them have been diagnosed with ADHD. Or OCD is the other one that's really common in their work, which is interesting to me that there's like those two, yeah, they're very, it's very prevalent.
And it makes sense because they get a lot of the variety. Their days are always different, it's, um, it makes sense to me why they would also gravitate into that line of work.
Yeah. And isn't it a good feeling to, to have things make sense because what's the alternative when we didn't know this? [00:12:00] Things didn't make sense and things were like, like confusing.
Like, what's wrong? Like, that was my default. Like, why can't I like function like a normal adult? Why can't I function like a normal human being that I see around me? And I think there's two things. Yes, there are neurotypical people that exist. And two, there are people who hide it well, right? We mask it very well.
We can hide what's going on behind closed doors, which is why there's so many of us, especially women, Who were misdiagnosed with, well, not maybe misdiagnosed, but anxiety and depression were presenting because of undiagnosed ADHD, right? So there's a lot of, so having things make sense, it's just,
it's a good feeling.
It is, and it takes away a lot of that shame, at least that's what I found, is that, because I think, I think I was one of those people that was masking it really well, because often when people hear that I have it, they're like, what? Because I'm good at presenting myself as having everything together and everything lined up and being really organized and focused.
But they don't see my kitchen day to day, like they don't see the mess in my house that I can [00:13:00] never seem to get on top of. Yep, I hear you, my kitchen, I'm looking
at my kitchen right now, yes.
Oh, what I'm seeing of your house looks beautiful.
I know, I set up at a good angle, that's why.
I know, I do the same thing, people are always like, your office is so nice.
I'm like, you don't see this side, like you don't see all the stuff on my desk I need to deal with. And like all the piles of things on the floor, like you just see. What I want you to see. Yes. But I think that's a huge part of it, right? Like we just let, that's see what we want. And then, but I always thought, I was like, well, like what you were saying about why can't I do this or why can't I be like this?
My question was always, when am I gonna be a grownup? Like when am I gonna feel like an adult and feel like I have my home together and
Yeah.
Be able to do that. And now I'm just, I just accept that this is how it is and I find things that sometimes help and, but. Yeah. I also feel like I give myself more grace that yeah, the kitchen's a mess right now and it is what it is.
Like it is what it is. I'll, I'll get to it. Greg will get to it. We'll figure it out. [00:14:00] But it's never going to be pristine a hundred percent of the time.
Yeah. Exactly. No such thing as perfection. And I actually said that on the last podcast that I was on you with like, no such thing as perfection. And like, that's still true this many years later.
And I think the word grace is such a good one. Grace and compassion. And the most fascinating thing that I find is that the more grace and compassion we have for ourselves, the less we actually kind of struggle overall. Like, you know, you notice that things might be a little bit easier when we give ourselves the grace.
Right? Yeah,
absolutely. Absolutely. Like even this morning, I had to message you just before we're supposed to be on to be like, I got something in my eye and I messed up my makeup and all this. But there was like, like, I felt like there was this whole chaotic storm around me. But I was like, Christy, I can be honest with and tell her what's happening instead of, like, honestly, if you were another guest, I would have been like, I'm just having a technical issue.
I'll be on in a minute. Just have to reboot my server or something. But I was like, I could be honest with Christy and just be like, things are falling apart. [00:15:00] Give me a minute. Oh, beyond. And I love
it. And it's like, and it's like having that, that like to laugh about it just lighthearted because that was me this morning too.
And I was having the same thing. I was like, Oh, well, Terry will understand. You know, it's understand like, so on brand, you know, running around trying to, I had, for me, it was like, Oh shoot, I should have, I should have dealt with the animals before dropping the kids off. So I'm like running around getting the hay, getting the chicken feed.
And I'm like, I got to get back in. I'm looking at the topic. We're Then I'm thinking, Oh my goodness, please, like, I hope this coyote, we have this coyote that's kind of terrorizing us and my dog will bark. So I'm like, Oh goodness, I hope the coyote doesn't show up. So, but I'm like, you know what, if it does, that's actually just part of my life.
A little bit of an element of chaos
to keep things interesting. Absolutely. And my dogs bark all the time while I'm recording. So it's, uh, it's, it's normal. It's on brand for the show too. Good. People are used to it. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Now you, you completely changed business and since you, you know, you mentioned you were on the podcast before, but we were talking about headshots back then in your photography business.
Yeah. And so [00:16:00] what was that transition like for you from changing your business and did having ADHD sort of influence you making that change or was that something that you think would have happened anyway?
Hmm. Okay. That's a, that's a great question. So I, I mean, what's coming up for me is, well, first of all, being a photographer is a huge, like ADHD is very prevalent there.
I'd say like, I don't even know what the stat is, but I mean, you know, 80%, I don't know, just making that up. Wow. Yeah. Like photographers, creatives. Yeah. We tend to have ADHD, but a reason why I think. I think because of the struggles that I had so much behind the scenes, I had so much guilt and shame in my photography business on the areas that were big challenges for me that it affected me, like obviously mentally it affected me.
physically. And I think there was just so much of that, that I needed a break. And, and I don't think I would have given myself that break had it not been for COVID. So there was like kind of that external thing and, and going into coaching and, and what I say, and it's [00:17:00] interesting cause I did talk about this on the last podcast.
I realized after the fact it's kind of like the photography, obviously it was, it's a passion. It was a passion of mine. I absolutely adored it. Um, I felt like I, I was good at it. I really loved the photo shoot. Part of it. And also it was, it was a bit of a default career, if you will, because the story was, I got my camera and then took some classes for fun and then I was asked to take family photos and I was like, Oh, okay.
You know, I'll do it. And it snowballed from there. It was like, Oh, I'm going to have a baby. Can you do my maternity? I've got a wedding and I'm like, I just jumped right into it because I had my three, three younger ones at the time. Like, you know, it was a perfect, perfect thing. So something that I could do to set my own hour.
So it was. It was, it was a really great opportunity. And now I feel like with this coaching, like the ADHD stuff that I'm doing, I feel like that was like, like a chosen, like something that was like intentionally chosen rather than kind of like a default that I like stumbled into. And I'm thankful [00:18:00] for that photography and, and that chapter.
So yeah, so I feel like this is something where I actually discovered and I sat and I. Well, for me, it was like an immediate yes, but just the intention behind it and just feeling like that it was chosen.
Yeah. I love that. And it's interesting for me hearing that because that's something that I find as a theme as I speak to entrepreneurs on this show is that often what they end up doing is not the thing that they thought they'd be doing, but they kind of something, something happens intervenes in life and then they find the thing that they were meant to be doing.
And. And it's kind of like, but before they couldn't see it or they didn't recognize it was there and it's always, it always seems to go that way. And I find that really fascinating that life happens or some kind of life event, like in your case, it was COVID kind of gave you that ability to step away from it.
And, and then they find what they were actually supposed to be doing and the path they're meant to be on. And that's, it's so interesting to me when [00:19:00] that happens. And
it's okay that that path can continue too. So even though you might arrive in this spot, and that's a big thing for me, and I love like the, like change is my natural state and kind of getting rid of that guilt and shame to know that we're allowed to evolve.
I mean, yeah, I mean, there comes a time where it's like, you don't want to be like a ping pong match where you're here, there, and everywhere, but also giving your permission to evolve Give yourself, give yourself permission that even though you feel like you arrived at the thing you do, that's still allowed to evolve over time.
Right? Yes.
I love, I love that. Yeah. That's such an important message for people because I know I've had three distinct careers in my life and kind of like a sub career. Like I feel like the podcast coaching and stuff I'm doing now is kind of like not a complete divergence, but kind of like a subset of what I've been doing.
Yeah. And, uh, and yeah, and I love that we're, we're allowed to change, we're allowed to evolve and move on, move on to new things. Although I will say, I do miss your photography because you are the most amazing photographer. You were my favorite one [00:20:00] I ever worked with, and for, for those listening, the cover photo, the photo of me on the cover of the podcast is one of Christy's photos, so.
Thank you, I
appreciate that, and even when I see, yeah, I see your, I see your photos the most, but I see, see a lot of photos around still. It just gives me that little ping of like, Oh, like just that chapter. It warms my heart to see my work. And I'm like, I enjoy seeing it. And it does miss it. But I've been asked a lot if I'm going to go back into it.
And I just feel like that at this point in my life, that chapter is closed. But hey, right? Things can always, things can always bring back things in the future. Right. But at this point, it feels good having that kind of
closed for the time being. Absolutely. And it's, you know, and I, I get that people ask me all the time if I would go back to theater, if I ever miss it, or if I want to.
Get on stage again and I'm like, well, I don't like, I don't see that opening up again. I feel the same way. It's closed. I'm not going to go back to it, but I also see how it feeds into what I do today and speaking and the work that I do. I bring a lot of my theater skills into it. Even in [00:21:00] hypnotherapy, I'm bringing a lot of my theatrics into it.
Do you find that, that that past experience is like that you're, you're pulling experience from your photography business into what you do today? Or are they just completely separate? That
You know, all, all of my, I've had other businesses too, all of my businesses and all of my careers, like all of my jobs, right?
Everything has, and the one ironic thing was that in 2018 I was doing a talk and that was right before I found out about that, I thought that I had ADHD and went through the whole process. But my talk, that's why I love, I love irony. I love irony and serendipity and synchronicity and all those things.
But my talk was called, um, Stepping Stock. And it was talking about releasing that guilt and shame about all the many hats I've worn because every step I did was leading into the next and how many things that I'm sort of collecting over the years benefit me now, and if you really sit and look like at all, all the little things that I've done, um, yeah, definitely, there's, there's something, always a lesson to be [00:22:00] learned, there's always a lesson.
experience to be brought forward that you weave in, like, just think of it, I mean, you start thinking of it that way, it's like, it just, it just brings yourself so much more, I don't know, again, like, it's just that, that validation and a better understanding of yourself, and I think at the root of it too, is just releasing the guilt and shame, and it's like, ah, like, that's really cool, but I've done all those things, versus, wow, I really can't stick to anything, look at me, like, I just can't stick to one thing, look, I can't, I'm, I was changing, you know, and now I'm like, no, you know what?
Those were my stepping stone, and there can be more, there, there's allowed to be more.
Yeah, that's a great perspective. Tell us more about the ADHD coaching and what would, what does a person come to an ADHD coach for? What kind of work do you do with your clients?
So somebody would come because I, and I think, I mean, I think kind of at the foundation is, they come for something that they think, like a specific problem.
[00:23:00] or a specific challenge. And then you come in and you sort of like open it up and say, okay, now look, let's look at the whole life. Let's look at everywhere. And it's like, oh, I didn't even think I could bring these things as a topic to coaching. Right? So, so there's that discovery there of what we want to work on.
And, A lot of it is, I mean, you know, with coaching, it's like, it's sort of like a, like a co creative thing, right? It's a partnership. And so a lot of it is, yeah, I think a lot of it, people are on a path to discovery and finding tools and strategies that work for them. But I also like to work on that mindset.
Like, obviously you've heard, I think this whole conversation, I've really been touching on like the grace, the compassion, you know, the guilt, the shame. I think there's just a huge portion of mindset work that is weaved into coaching as well, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And helping you find direction in life, like helping you make decisions, helping you get things done, which it's probably, I want to say probably for most of us, if not all of us is, you know, how many things are getting in our way that [00:24:00] are weighing on us every day, right?
That to do list. So. Yeah.
Yeah. Which is, uh, yeah, that's amazing. You know, speaking of to do lists, what are some strategies or maybe some tools that you could suggest to help us get things done if we're struggling, like with my kitchen, of struggling to finish tasks or even start them? Um, do you have some tips or tools you could share with us?
Yeah, I
definitely have some tips and tools, but I think I have to go with like, my number one, like, my number one hands down thing to get things done is body doubling. Hmm. So, have you, you heard of body doubling? Yes. Yeah, I heard of it first from you, and I, I love it. Yeah, okay. I feel like, yeah, I've been, I've been talking about it since like, probably 2019 and, and I love that it's so, like, kind of a common word now, like, used outside of the neurodivergent community as well.
So I think that concept is helpful for anybody, but especially those of us with ADHD, and that, for me, hands down, will always be my number one [00:25:00] rule. So, I kind of would like, when I'm, I was kind of away from the scene since I had my whole whirlwind changing, you know, Moving to a farm and stuff. I stepped a little bit away from the ADHD area now that I'm kind of back in that arena I'm thinking oh like, you know, does everybody know I I made the assumption like well Everybody probably knows about it now, but actually there's so many people being diagnosed in the past You know, a few years, I mean, probably days, months, weeks, like there's, there's, there's everybody joining the community who, who might not know about body doubling.
So I just, I mean, quickly in a, in a nutshell, the idea of, of like having someone there as an anchor, whether it's in person or it's virtually, and we have a co working, kind of like co working. So we, we just set up actually an in person co working day, which is the idea of body doubling. If you're sitting alongside somebody, like I said, whether they're there in person or not, or whether you're in a group, like I facilitate a group body double session.
I have this like sort of thing where like all these little ways, like I call it the body double effect, where it's sort of like little ways that I've kind of worked it into different than the [00:26:00] traditional, but the idea is like one way you could do it is you get together with somebody like this, like say we're on video and we present like, Hey, like we're going to work on.
Okay. I'm going to work on this. Okay. Let's set off the Pomodoro timer. That would work, you know, 25 minutes to make sure you take a break in there. But, without fail, it is, hands down, the number one way that I get things done. Nice! And because we as humans, we're not meant to work alone, we're not meant to do everything alone.
Like, we, we're meant to do things in community. So that's that other, um, component of it.
Yeah, that makes so much sense. And, and with body doubling, do you need to be working on the same kind of task or can you be doing different things? Like what is, what makes it the most effective?
You know, what makes it the most effective is just having that external, like that accountability there.
So it really doesn't matter in my opinion, it absolutely doesn't matter what you're working on. So I'm, and here's another misconception. It doesn't have to be just on those like annoying tasks that we avoid. We often avoid things we enjoy too, like think about our hobbies. Yeah, so sometimes I've [00:27:00] had body double sessions where it's like crafty sessions.
Everybody's working on their craft. They're, they're, they're, um, they're crocheting, they're catching up on their, they're painting. I was really into like painting my numbers for a while, or like miniature, like a lot of little things, little hobbies. Yeah. So, that's a thing too. It, it can work for stuff that, um, for things that we just don't make time for as well.
Reading a book. Like maybe you have so many books you want to read. Cleaning. Cleaning is another big one, but that's not to say that maybe someone in business is going to sit there working on their, writing their blogs, but somebody else might be at home getting their dishes done and doing some, some cleaning, right?
And you can do that in person too. Where it's like, you know, have someone come over to your house and, uh, maybe someone's sitting working on their laptop and you're, um, like folding laundry or something. So there's so much
versatility there. Well, I never thought of it for things that we enjoy, but just aren't making time for.
And you just gave me a whole bunch of ideas because I know like one of the things that I really love that I haven't made time for, and I keep thinking I got to get back to it, is a watercolor painting. I love [00:28:00] it, but I haven't done it in months, months and months, months. Because I keep putting other things ahead of it, and I just haven't been able to prioritize it.
But I think if I had someone, like, you know, either in my house or even just online while I'm painting, I could make that space for it. Yeah.
Well, sort of, that, that's exactly what I'm wanting to do with this community that I've been, that I'm, that I am building, that I am building in the new year. And part of it is gonna be a place for connection and creativity.
And completion, like getting things done.
Yeah.
Well,
that's so exciting. Very exciting. I love that. Another way that I've used body doubling is the thing that I find that I, I avoid all the time. And it's not even conscious. I just don't do it. It's like, if I have to call and make a doctor's appointment, it's It's always, it always gets bumped to the bottom of the list and I forget and I forget and I forget, but if I tell my husband I need to call and make these appointments, [00:29:00] here's my list, just hang out with me while I call, he will, like he'll just hang out either in my office with me, he'll like sit on the chair behind me and read a book, play on his phone, do whatever, but just having his presence in the same space, then I get those calls done and it's, then I, I actually do it and intentionally can make time for it, but if I don't have that, I will put it off for weeks.
Okay. And months, or sometimes I just never do it. I never book the appointment that I need because I put it off for so long. But when I find myself in that pattern, I just ask him, like, I need to make these calls, hang out with me. Yeah. Like, well, I do them and then I get it done.
A hundred percent. See, that's the way that you can get creative with it.
It doesn't have to be, you don't have to have like an official. body double where you're, you know, but that's awesome because there are services out there, there are communities out there, and where can you find it in your household? Like I actually, for my kids too, I've, I've used my kids to find out the guest stuff that I'm like, okay, let's do this together.
And it's [00:30:00] like, okay, now I'm doing it. Little do they know, they're like helping me, helping me get it done too, right? So there's little ways
to work it in there. That just, all of a sudden I just like made a connection too. I realized I really like doing it. Any admin stuff in my business, I hate doing it in my office, like the, the things I want to put off, but I'll happily sit on my couch and do it on my laptop because Greg will be there watching like the hockey game or doing something and then it feels so much easier to get done.
But if I come into my office to do it, I don't, I feel like I don't even want to be in here. Like I don't want to do it. I'll avoid it. So I didn't realize like in that, that's another way that I'm doing it. That I wasn't even consciously aware of doing.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's what I kind of call the body devil effect, where it's not like maybe the traditional way, the traditional sense that we, we think of it, but other little ways where we work at it.
Yeah. Yeah. Cause I will literally sit there and do my bookkeeping and my taxes on the couch where it's like, it, it seems logically like it'd make more sense to do it in my office where I could be, [00:31:00] there's no distraction or noise and I could just focus in on it. But I can't do it in here, but I can sit on my couch next to him and do it, and then it gets done, finally.
And that's the thing is you're
not, that's the thing is like when you just flow with what works better for you, that's so much easier than the alternative because you're going to exhaust yourself continually trying to force yourself into the way that you think that it should be done. And meanwhile, it's still not working and you're exhausted on top of that.
But if you can find ways in your life to just alter that and go with what flows better and feels better with you, then Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It makes so much sense. I love it. I just love it. Yeah. And we have our body doubling date on Wednesday. Yeah. Where I'm going to work on my new website. I'm excited. Get some headway.
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Yeah. And something else that I love that you talked about, this was recently, we're at an event together. [00:33:00] And you were talking about making things sparkly again, and that was, that was huge.
Can you share that with us as well? Yes. I mean, great for entrepreneurs, but anybody, and so like, I think about when, and just touch a little bit on more entrepreneurs is that if we think about teams, so for those of us with ADHD, if we have teams, that's only where we really need to look at systems and structures and outsourcing and delegating.
But on our personal stuff. In business and personal life, one of the strategies is make, is re sparkle ize. Re sparkle ize? Yeah, re sparkle izing. That's a term that I, I learned in my, uh, ADHD coach training. And that idea is again, just that, like making it re sparkly, like making it more interesting, making it more novel again.
And that's, that's a question I always ask myself and clients. It's like, and how can we make it more interesting? So when we're kind of done with something and we're finding that it, the thing that we found is not effective anymore, that's okay. Cool. What can we do to change it up and spice it up, spice it up a bit, you know, re sparkleize it if
you will.[00:34:00]
I love it so much. And like I was sharing with you at that event, I had found a really good strategy that was working for me for a while for keeping my house clean. And it was so beautiful. I felt so good. I was like, I finally found like the, the way that I will do this. And I'm an adult now and anyone can drop in on my house anytime and everything is clean.
Uh, and fresh and then it stopped working and I was like, you know, in my head thinking well, why isn't this working anymore? I just gotta get back to it. I just gotta get back to it, but I just can't. I can't seem to get back on track. What's wrong with me? Why can't I just do it? It was working before. And then when you shared that, I was like, Light bulbs went off.
I was like, oh, because it's not sparkly anymore. I just need to re sparklize it. That's why. Yes, yes. Yeah, it's so cool. And, and we
don't have to put so much pressure, too much pressure, unless we want to in terms of making it like, legitimately sparkly. So sometimes it's like, sometimes I need to go out and buy a new notebook, and I need to buy some new colorful pens, and like, that's totally okay.
Yeah. I don't have to feel shame about that. But also, sometimes [00:35:00] re sparklizing might not have kind of that like, sexy, cool, visual feeling to it, but it might just be simply like, okay, I need to switch my app, like it's time for, for a different, what will that be? Yeah. Exactly. Sparkly feeling too, but you know what I'm saying?
It doesn't necessarily have to be something that's outwardly exciting. It might just be something that's, that's subtle and just always shifting and going into things again. It just is like that shame piece, that guilt piece, giving ourselves permission to change. Right? And so, yeah, feeling like, oh, we've failed at something, like, here's just a yet another thing that I've discovered that now doesn't work for me that I can't stick with.
And when you change, just knowing that you can always go back to that, because when that thing doesn't work anymore, right, you can pull from the things that have worked before. Now maybe you've had enough of a break. So I do that. There's like different things that I have that I'm like, okay, now I'm in this era, like, this is what's working for me.
And now I, oh, I've discovered something new. I'm kind of done with this. I'm going to go back. So there's ways that that works, right? It's, I'd say it's more stuff that we are like tasks and stuff that [00:36:00] are for us. But when you have a team, I don't think that necessarily can work. as well. I don't think it can work as well when you have people on your team.
So that's where you, you know, having systems in place and, and, uh, and different, different structures are more beneficial. But when it comes to our own personal things in business and in personal lives, yeah, feel free to change it as needed.
Oh, yeah, that's interesting. I hadn't thought about that, like with working with teams, because then you, you really need a structure, like you really need to have, yeah, that in place for them to follow.
So what do you, You know, do you have any advice for entrepreneurs who are working with a team and they're getting bored of those systems or they're not, like they as a leader are no longer following it, but how do they keep themselves engaged and interested and so that their team can still follow along?
Do you know what I mean? Like how do you, how do you, how do you re sparkle ize it if it's in your business and your team needs to stick with a system?
It goes back to body doubling because that's the thing [00:37:00] that's going to get me, you know, To do the things that I don't want to do. So maybe it's like, Oh, I really hate a snot or a Trello and I don't like it anymore, but it doesn't make sense to come in next week and be like, we're going to switch it up, let's switch everything over, like, that's not to say that you can't do that, but it's also not going to be productive to be changing all the time.
It just, that to me, doesn't make sense in terms of like, resources and time to switch too much in that area. So that's where body doubling comes in. So it'd be like, well, maybe when I have to catch up on trial out, even though I'm kind of annoyed of it at this point, it's like, I'm going to book in like with body doubling session, and then I'm going to do the thing that I don't, that I don't want to do.
Nice. Yeah. So simple, so simple and effective. Yeah, it really is. Honestly. And sometimes it feels like a cop out for me to always fall back on that, but I genuinely, truly. That is what, that is what I use, that is what works for me, and I believe that's what is work, can work for anybody, outside of the neurodivergent community.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I find, I've been, [00:38:00] um, I haven't gone for the last few weeks, but over the summer especially, I was going to a co working space, just, Once a week, just to be in the energy of other people working. And those days were so productive for me because everyone around me was working. And, and it was also a very creative space.
It was an interesting space to be in, but I find like, if I go in there, I get so much done just being with people who are working. Yeah.
Yeah. And I love it. Yeah. It's a massive impact. And I think too, another thing for with teams is always just kind of delegating and outsourcing. What? You don't enjoy doing, you know, where, where possible, where possible.
I think too, is like, we often go to, okay, I'll, I'll use social media as an example. Okay. Let's, let's, let's hire someone. Let's bring someone in for the team for social media. Let's outsource it to a social media company, but maybe we really love doing social media. Maybe that's our thing. And so let's think outside of the box.
So as an entrepreneur, maybe it's like, I absolutely hate laundry. [00:39:00] And I have done this because we lived in an RV and I used the laundry service and that was the best thing. They would pick it up, fold it. It was like the number of laundry and it was so good. So it's like maybe instead of, you know, um, putting the budget towards hiring out something that you actually really do enjoy, why don't you hire something out in your personal life that you, that you loathe, you know, such as laundry or grocery shopping or cleaning, cleaning service.
Right. So. There's ways to think outside of the box and that's where our kind of innovation and creativity come, come into play as well, right? So thinking outside.
Now I have some questions from my Instagram community. So Lizzie said, speaking from the autistic side, the overwhelm. It's often hard to pace myself.
Any tricks I can teach my brain.
Yeah. And like the pacing. I'm kind of wondering, is this in business, business related? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I assume. Yeah, I think so. The number one thing for overwhelm for me is a brain dump. It's like the act of writing everything up that's on your brain when you're [00:40:00] feeling overwhelmed.
So I think that's a really, really great place to start, um, when you're feeling overwhelmed. And another thing is also the environment that you're in. And sometimes we think like, Oh, we can handle the clutter, but actually, really, I think a lot of us that think we can, we, we can't. So are we in a space that's bringing us, uh, like our nervous system into like a very calm, you know, where are we at with that?
So are we in a cluttered environment that's causing the visual? I'm just doing it right now because like my place is visually, I have strategies now that I, I'm so proud that I keep up on things pretty well, but it's not always perfect, right? And that's okay. No such thing as perfection. But. Yeah. So overwhelm, I think one thing is doing a brain dump, getting everything that's overwhelming you, swirling in your head.
And it doesn't just have to be the traditional to do, like the task, it could be like, here's one on one point, watercolor. I really want to take a watercolor course. Like I should, I actually did buy the watercolor course, so I should, I should actually open that course and do it, that I paid for. [00:41:00] Yeah.
Getting, it's getting that all down on paper. That's, that's the first step. There's other steps, but I'll just stick to the first step of a brain dump. Yeah. Yeah. Anything and everything that's going on. And number two for overwhelm is like, just being aware of the environment that you're in. Can you bring yourself into an environment that's going to be a little more conducive to um, um, nervousness?
Yeah,
I like that. I have, no one ever sees this part of my office, but on like this side, is just white wall. Like there's nothing because I find that if I, if I was looking at what's behind me, like the books and the plants and all the things that would be way too stimulating for my brain to be able to focus.
But I just need like white space behind my computer where I can just, it helps a lot of like, so I get what you're saying about the environment. Cause that calms me. Um, the clutter on my desk, I need to clean off again. It's gotten a little chaotic, but like, I find that having that visual white space where I can just, it allows me to think [00:42:00] differently, to be creative.
Yeah. That's such a great tip. Yeah. What about the I hope that kind of answers the question. I don't know, but Yeah. And then the second part of her question was about pacing. Like Yeah. Be sure. Yeah. And I find like, I can relate to that because I will get so all in on something and I'll be like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
And then I get exhausted. Mm hmm. So, I think, yeah, I have that same challenge. So, it's like a,
like a hyper focus type thing, like in terms of pace? Yeah. Is it like too, too fast pace? Oh my gosh. I'm not, I really can't go there again, but I'm just like, I really want to say body doubling, and I'm not kidding you, that's not a cop out, because that's where it's like you're taking breaks.
Like, if, if you're doing one that's like a facilitated body double. Where you're forcing yourself into the 25 minute and taking a five minute break. We kind of feel, so you can do this yourself. So it doesn't have to go on to that one, but I'm going to use Pomodoro technique as an example. But really the whole idea is working in little chunks.
Giving yourself a break to help that. Hey, because we think that if [00:43:00] we can just motor on through and keep going, it's actually not as effective. If we, we need to take breaks and make sure that we're doing a self care thing. Like are we? Taking a break to have a drink of water. Are we getting up and moving our body and stretching?
So I think that's why in the long, in the long run, if we're not pacing ourselves and we're keeping too focused for a long, significant amount of time, I think in the end, the recovery from that is a lot harder if we don't break it up into chunks. Right. So I don't know if that kind of in terms of pacing, um, yeah, it's like a Pomodoro technique, making sure you're taking those breaks and making sure you're taking care of yourself on
those breaks too.
Absolutely. That's a great, great tip. I use, I find my dogs help with that because they will, especially my youngest dog Dutch, if I'm in my office for too long, he will come and he'll start banging on my door and be like, let's go. I want to walk because he likes lots of walks. Like he doesn't have to go for them.
Like, he doesn't need to go potty or anything, but he just likes going outside and going for [00:44:00] walks. So, every couple hours, he'll be like, we're going. Yeah. Let's go. And he's relentless. When he decides it's time for a walk, there's no, I can't ignore him. He is, he will come in here, he'll paw at me, he'll be like, I want to go outside.
Let's go. Let's go. So, it's, uh.
I love it. Seems like he has a built in accountability buddy. Built in
accountability. He's like, we gotta go move. You've been sitting here long enough. Let's go move. Yeah. Love
it.
And then the other question that came through Instagram, a kind of similar, um, along the same lines from LJ.
And she said, is there a natural rhythm schedule for neurodivergence to follow? And she says, luteal phase versus follicular phase is one thing. And that was like, I think she's referring back to another guest I had on who talked about like the women's cycles and how to leverage that. Yeah. Yeah. But then she says, but in Audi 80, I don't ever know how to say that.
When people put like the autism in the a, I never know how to say it, but the autism, DH, adhd, IADH, ADHD
is what I say. But
yeah, I know not DH adhd. Yeah. Perfect.
Yeah. I, I think, but I could be wrong on that. That's just how I [00:45:00] think. Yeah, I think, I think that's,
that makes sense to me. So she says like, add an Audi, DH, adhd, and it's exhausting.
So again, about like just the scheduling and the rhythms, like is there a natural rhythm that we kind of can follow? I think that's one of the reasons,
like, so this is something where, this, this is something where I want to learn more on, or I'm not an expert in, but something that I know, beneficial and it's the women's cycle, so that's something that's on my radar to work into my business and my personal life.
Especially if, if, uh, she's referring to anything to do with like PMDD, that's something that I, Um, struggle with too. So I'm in it impacts, it does impact my life. And so I'm like, you know how, again, it just going with working with the flow and yeah, that's something I want to learn. But even, even when we're talking like a 24 hour rhythm, I think that, um, I don't know.
I believe that there isn't, not everybody's like a morning person, right. And we don't necessarily fit that. And that's one of the benefits of being an entrepreneur is that, you know, we can sort of sort of [00:46:00] shift our life to something that's better. Maybe some of us work better on things midday, where I know a lot of people that's like the midday slump and they get up in the morning and they, they can do all their writing and they're important and I've tried that and my brain is just not ready for that kind of stuff.
I need to be warmed up. I need to do stuff and I do my better work. I actually do my better work midday. Um, Oh, nice. Yeah, which is kind of like different from like what you think traditionally. Yeah, people say, right? So that's just that's the whole point, right? Through traditions, let's just go, go with what works for you.
You know, and maybe in the future, maybe I will be more of a morning person, right? I can retry that. I can retry that again. But yeah. Yeah. So not an expert on working with the rhythms in terms of the, like when she mentioned like the luteal phase and stuff, but that is something that I think I'm super interested to learn about and I think it'd be beneficial for all of those, those of us who are on, have cycles,
right?
Yes, definitely. Yeah. Check out, if you want to learn more about that, check [00:47:00] out Renee Fitt. She was on the show. Last spring, um, and that's what she does. Like she teaches women about their cycles and how to, how to track your cycle in terms of like, where's your energy, where, what are you best at during different times?
Are you more creative at this time? Are you more expressive at other times? Is this a time for introspection? And it's amazing. Yeah. I'll link it in the show notes. I'll link that episode in the show notes. Yes. Please do,
because that truly
is something that's been on my radar for a while now, something that I want to learn more about.
It's so fascinating. Yeah. It's so fascinating. And I found, like, talking with her and going through that was, for me, it was like, oh, if I listen to my body, I'm naturally getting these cues anyway. Yes. Like when it's time to slow down and be quiet or when it's time to like, when I like making more videos, like if I pay attention, I could see the patterns in my business to be like, I like making more videos when I'm like ovulating.
So I just plan during that time. I'm in the month like during ovulation, I'm [00:48:00] going to make more video content because I feel like, you know, glowy and I feel more like outward and more extroverted because that's what my body's telling me it wants to do.
So true. I noticed that naturally too with like social media all of a sudden I'll go through a burst like a window and I'm just a burst of like posting them all like really just like energetic online and stuff.
And so, yeah, we can just like, we can really play to that. Yeah. Yeah. Like how beneficial that is for us.
Yeah, and then you can, I mean, she teaches people how you can map out your whole business plan based on that and just follow it along and be like, okay, well, all the video content for my course will record on these days, but this is going to be my like visionary week as an entrepreneur where I think about what I want, which is like during the menstrual phase is like more like introspection.
Think about your bigger vision. Get a little quiet and I'm like, I do that anyway, like I shut down for four days where I'm just like, no I don't want to see people. I just want to [00:49:00] reflect and be on my own and and do my thing Yeah, that's very cool. Bigger,
bigger picture too could be like the seasons where it doesn't necessarily, I don't mean necessarily Seasons like every spring but it kind of lines up with that too actually if you think about it, but different seasons So I think there's so many like it's like a clock like a moving Clockwork of different rhythms that are kind of going on at the same time Yeah.
It's very fascinating. And I think very important, like, to be really
more aware. Absolutely. Yeah. And something that I thought, I don't know if you've heard of, have you heard of Rise Sleep? It's an app. Oh. So this is helping me right now. And I think this might help LJ in this, is the, um, it tracks your sleep for you.
So it can track different ways if you have a wearable device or if you, it'll track by just when you put your phone on your nightstand. It'll start tracking like when you fall asleep or can do it by sound. It can like listen and hear when you fall asleep. And so I just have mine set for my nightstand and it tracks your sleep, your sleep [00:50:00] hours and then it calculates like over time it gets to know you and it'll be like, okay.
You actually need seven and a half hours of sleep is your peak. And this is when you should be going to sleep. This is when you're going to get your big melatonin release in the evening. So this is when you need to start winding down. This is when you should plan to be falling asleep for, so no more reading, like turn off the lights, go to sleep.
This is when you should aim to wake up. You should wake up in this window because then you're going to get the best, the best energy for the day. And then it even like maps out your day and it'll be like, this is where you're going to have some energy lumps. This is the best time for you to exercise.
This is where you're going to get the most benefit out of exercising. This is your highest productivity window. So this is where you should plan things. And it is so cool. It's very accurate. I'm, for me, I'm finding it's very accurate and it gives you, it'll even like map it over to your calendar and be like, plan your, like plan your day based on
this.
Amazing. It's really cool. I love the sound of it. And that just goes to show, it's a custom thing. So [00:51:00] sometimes when we ask, we're asked questions, it's hard to say, well, you know, this might work for me, but it might not work for you exactly that way. So we can always like find something that's a little more tailored, a little more custom to us.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool. And then I've recommended it to a few clients now who are also ADHD. Just by coincidence, I'd recommend it to them anyway, but they're really liking it because they also find it kind of gamifies it a little bit. And, and they like that. Like they just like that. It's like a bit of a game.
Yeah. I'd love to check that out. Right. Rise up. Yeah. Rice sleep. Yeah. Rice sleep. Rice sleep. Yeah. You kind of touched on two things, if I can kind of quickly expand on two things that came up. So the word gamification, that is something that I, for some reason, I just don't super love that particular word, but I love the idea of it.
And so even, so gamification for entrepreneurs, right, is, is what I, it's kind of like an off of like what I call the body devil effect, right? So. Yeah. Yeah. How can you gamify things? That's, that can be really huge for a lot of us and so, [00:52:00] like, such as, I'll use an example. So we're recording this, you know, today on this Monday.
And when are you, when, when is this show going to be released? Two weeks, approximately two weeks. Okay, perfect. So this is me as an entrepreneur using this as an example of gamification. So by the time that this episode gets posted, I want to make sure that I, cause I'm, I'm, uh, navigating over my mail list.
So I want to have that landing page and my email list set up. So I'm like, Oh, I'm going to use that because I wanted to have it for today. But I'm like, Oh, wait a second. I don't need it today, but I want to have it for when it's released. Cause you're going to have my links out cause they're not working right now.
So that is a perfect. A perfect gamification, an external sort of external motivation. I'm building this is in as an example in this show, right now. So, gamification. And, uh, number two, just the talk of like sleep and stuff. And that kind of like, I know I mentioned a lot of like the mindset stuff, like the compassion and, you know, releasing the shame, but another huge, massive thing for me, it's like when someone asks about the entrepreneur [00:53:00] tools and hacks, I like to go with, okay, we're not going to necessarily find that planner or that app right away.
How are you on your foundations? Because we're never going to get ahead in business if our foundations are all out of place. Obviously things like. You know, rest, right? Restorative rest. Right. You know, nutrition, movement. And, again, none of these things have to be necessarily, well, like, movement doesn't have to be traditional.
It doesn't necessarily need to go to the gym, right? There's so many things that we can get creative with. So, if we're not focusing on those foundations, especially with ADHD, it's just gonna make, those, those tools and hacks might not even matter as much, because Because we're in such a struggle, coming from a place of challenge that those things aren't even as effective, those tools aren't effective, if I'm making sense, right?
Yes. Right? Yeah. It totally makes sense. And the second thing too is the more that we focus on those foundations, those tools also become slightly less necessary, those strategies have become slightly less necessary when [00:54:00] we're operating from like a good foundation, like we're rested, we're nourished, we're connecting, that's another thing like is, is connection.
Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Those kinds of things. And we're getting that in our lives, everything. It just, it has just such a ripple. It has a ripple effect on our, on our business.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I love that. I love that you mentioned too, like the daytimers and the apps and stuff that we, cause I've fallen into that trap where I think that this app is going to change my life.
This is what's going to organize me, but what I really need is just to sleep or I really need. And it can totally relate to what you're saying there. That if I take care of those foundational pieces, then. Those other things don't seem as important anymore, like getting the right app or getting the right day timer in place.
And I have found for myself, what I've found is the more simple the tool, the more effective it is for me. So I've tried so many organizational apps and different ways of setting up my to do list and reminders and all these things, but I find [00:55:00] the thing that I always go back to that works the best for me is just the note app on my phone.
I just make a checklist, I dump everything in there that I need to do. I check it off when it's done. And then that's it. Then I start another one the next day, like, and I go back to that, but I always get so excited about like, Oh, this new app is going to change everything. And then I just go back to my notes.
Yeah. I mean, if we're chronically overwhelmed, it doesn't make sense to bring in something that's more overwhelming. You know, how can we simplify? How can we bring things back to the most basic, you know, simple way? We don't need to overcomplicate things. Yeah. Yeah. Just keep it simple. Which I'm telling that to myself because I'm like the queen of making things and everything over complicated.
Totally. We're always forever telling
us our own thing too, right? And I have some rapid fire questions for you if you're, if you're down for it. What's your favorite book or a book that you want to recommend? Oh, I have this. Yeah. I think The Big Leap. Yeah. The Big Leap.
Yeah. I haven't read it, but I've heard so much about it.
I have to. I'll, I have to give a shout out to Kelly [00:56:00] Deals. Uh, she was the one who told me about that. And I don't, I don't like to repeat. I'm not somebody who watches like shows and books. I can't do it more than once typically, but The Big Leap is one that I have read and listened to multiple times. I love that book.
Oh,
wow.
Okay. I'm going to move up my list. I think I need to read that. Uh, what is your favorite food? Um, I'm like looking
around my kitchen. You know what, I'm gonna go. This isn't, this isn't maybe a food, but I, I, I love anything mint chocolate. Does that count? Yeah, that counts. I love tacos. I love, you know, a lot of things.
I think I struggle with picking favorites because I have a lot of favorites. Yeah. But I'm just going to give
a shout out to mint chocolate. I love mint chocolate. I had mint chocolate just last night. Cadbury. Yeah. Cadbury mint chocolate. What's your biggest pet peeve? Goodness.
I don't know. I know. Wow. I'm discovering I'm not great at these rapid fire questions.
My biggest pet peeve. Okay. This is, I don't know if this is my biggest. Oh, I think about like, When we go on to, okay, here, here's a pet peeve of mine. In groups, [00:57:00] when people come in, they say, I don't, I don't want to put this out. I have friends and family in this group, so I don't want to say my name. But then they go and give like all these specific field details, like my nine year old, and this is my, and I'm like, you're just, you're just giving it away.
That and, and also when people put stuff out online and social media, Facebook, and then it's shared outside and people are like, this is supposed to be a safe space, a private space, and I'm like, Please don't do that. Like, I don't, I don't condone doing that. That person shouldn't be doing that. And also, don't put stuff out online because it's not, Facebook groups are not a safe space.
I don't know if this is my biggest pet peeve, but those are two that do bug me when I, when I.
Yes. I agree with those a hundred percent. What are three things you would take with you to a deserted island?
Oh, I'm just going to go with phone because I'm going to think about like a deserted island. So I'm going to go with phone because you can have your books and everything, your audio books on there.
Um, I'm going to go with art supplies, like I'll bring a little art bowl and, uh, I'll bring some sunscreen because, you know, we should, you [00:58:00] know, so there's something safe. There's something kind of logical. There's something fun.
Yeah. That's what I'm going to bring. You got your bases covered. You're good.
Who's a celebrity you would like to have dinner with, dead or alive? Oh my goodness. Okay.
A celebrity, dead or alive? Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Okay. Oh my goodness. I don't know why this is coming up, but I want to say, I don't even know if I want to say this. I'm, for some reason I want to say Paris Hilton because she's talking about ADHD and I just feel like that's not something, somebody that I would necessarily traditionally pick.
I feel like I need to think about it. I think that I'm discovering that rapid fire questions. I thought I was really good at this because I have a, I typically have a quick brain, but I have, I think above a quick brain, I have an overthinking brain. Yeah. Yeah. So this is kind of an interesting thing because I thought that I would be really good with rapid fire questions.
I think you're doing
great. Oh, thanks.
Yeah.
So I'm
going to go with that, but I feel like there's other
answers [00:59:00] that I would
like to
know. Yeah. Let's just stick with that. Well, I like the Paris Hilton one because I, have you seen her? Now I can't think of the name, but she had a reality show, like a recent one.
Yes.
Paris is getting married. Paris is getting love or something? Or getting married.
I loved that so much, and it made me see her in a completely different light. I have so much respect for her, and think she's amazing, so I think that's a great answer. And I
loved her biography, and just what she's doing, she's kind of out there with the ADHD space right now.
Yeah. And the fact that she's a DJ, I think that's really cool. I have her like, I have her DJ sets on my, on my phone and I wouldn't have considered myself like a Paris. That's how it always is for me. It's documentaries, biographies that get me, get me really into things. So yes, I watched that and that's probably, was probably a catalyst.
That and her book.
Nice. I think she's a great choice. And the last one, what is your go to karaoke song? Oh
gosh, this is so hard too, because there's so many that I want to say. I'm going to go with off the top of my head, um, [01:00:00] the Nitty Gritty Dirtman, Fishing in the Dark, or, or, or like, or Maren Morris, My Church, or, yeah, or TLC, um, um, Waterfalls, and I really like doing the rap part.
So, yeah, it's just a whole area. Some country, some rap, a little everything. Yeah.
Yeah. Perfect. And then Matthew Fornero, who was on the show last, just before you, he says, he wanted to ask you this question. What do you do to properly divide work from personal life and to make sure they don't overlap? I mean, the first
thing that comes to mind is the fact that they can, they do overlap.
I don't know if it's maybe because being like a mom in my office is literally in my house. So like Logistically and physically speaking, it overlaps. Yeah. But, so what do I do to separate that? Oh gosh, like that's like actually a really good, a really good question. But I mean, one thing I do is getting out of the house to like physically separate.
So it's like going to the coffee shop and then we're going to have a co work date. Yeah. I often work in really good times where I go out [01:01:00] to the coffee shop. For me, that is a setting that I just work so well in. It's like that, you would, I get very overstimulated by, by sound and noise, but for some reason in that coffee shop atmosphere, that atmosphere works really well for me.
So because I work from home and stuff, it's sometime just changing it up and getting out of the house. How I
do. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. I like coffee shops too, for the same reason. I think it's cause it's like that like droning noise. It's like, it's so. background. Yeah. But it's not like, it's not invasive noise, if that makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On a, I have to tell you about this on a total side note. I was talking with a guy at a networking event who he had, he just recently discovered he has ADHD and he was talking, I forget what it's called, but it's Apple's like virtual reality thing or you put the goggles, yeah. And he said he likes to set it up as a workspace, but he'll set it up for a coffee shop atmosphere Yeah.
And so he gets the noise and the surroundings but he then can like project his computer [01:02:00] screen onto it. So he's like sitting in his home, like working away, but has the environment of a coffee shop. And he's like, I get so much done.
I love that. I love that. I mean, no one is here, but I feel like if I did that, I was here, I'd have like, husband or kids, like scaring me, like coming up behind me.
Like, I could just feel like I would be on edge. Like someone's going to scare me at any moment.
That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. For me to be by dogs, I feel like, I feel like my, one of my dogs would like jump on me and terrify me. What's a question you would like to pass along to the next guest without knowing who they are?
Hmm. Okay. Maybe I'm going to,
I would like to ask the next question or the next guest. Are they typically like entrepreneurs, would you say? Usually. Yeah. Yeah. So like, I kind of feel like maybe like, what is, what is the legacy you want to leave?
I love that. That's a great question. And any final thoughts you want to leave the audience with
today?
Final thoughts are, I have so many more thoughts and I was so thankful to be on here talking with you today. But yeah, and [01:03:00] talking about it is just making me think more, like how much I want to talk. So final thoughts is I want to get my podcast and I'm so thankful for you because you are such an excellent and amazing podcast coach full of knowledge.
And so, yeah, I'm just gonna throw that out there as well. That's something that I wanna be working on and sort of my, my final thoughts and Yeah,
and get your landing page up so that we can share it. And it'll be in the show notes. That's your accountability. Exactly. For one listening. See, there's
ways to, to do
it, you'll see it in the show notes,
is being a guest on the podcast to work in some Gamification
absolutely. Thank you
so much, Kristy. I really appreciate this. Thank you.
I hope that you all enjoyed this episode as much as I did. And as you know, nothing happens without taking actions. So what are you going to take action on as a result of this episode today? Is it a body doubling session with a friend, maybe get some of those tasks done or some of those fun tasks [01:04:00] accomplished. Are you going to game-ify the system, finding ways to respond, localize things that maybe have lost their shine and stopped working for you. Or are you going to do a brain dump and get rid of some of that overwhelm? Let me know, let me know what it is that you are planning to take action on after today's episode.
And you can always reach me on social media, on any platform at the Teri Holland, but you know, Instagram is my favorite. So come find me there. I let me know what you're going to take action on from this episode. And then I hope to see you back again soon for our next episode, which right now, I don't know what that's going to be, to be honest, but I do have some great guests planned for you coming up into the new year.
So you're going to have to stick around for those, but I'll be back in between with some solo shows for you. I hope you have a fantastic rest of your day. Bye for now. My friends.
